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In Reply to: RE: You must have been desperate to watch a film.... posted by TWB on October 21, 2021 at 09:54:36
TWB,
Well, to each his own, but I thought Blade Runner 2049 was far more emotionally subtle, had a better narrative arc, and more refined production design than the original. Of course, special FX has come a long while in that time as well. Blade Runner is complex as it concerns which group gets to set the definition of humanity and the relative value of its constituents.
As for Dune, I was not terribly excited by the first one, but the look was good, and it less cartoonish (and also less fun) than Star Wars. It was also an irresistible challenge to work out what it was about; the exploitation and repression by economic empires of foreign cultures. Remember the time it was written -1965. New Dune seems to only have the look going for it, geared for the fantasy gamers set.
I've noticed over the years that the better the movie, the better I remember it and the less often I watch it. I can say a lot of the dialogue in Apocolypse Now just before the character although I've seen it three times since it was new in 1979. Same with the Third Man, Seven Samurai, Being There, Chinatown, Das Boot, Casino, Dr. Strangelove, Pulp Fiction, and a few others. I couldn't repeat three words from either of the Dunes that I saw two days ago.
Yes, I learned a couple of hours ago that there's a Dune Part 2. I will not be seeing it.
Bambi_B
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Both the original Dune and Blade Runner later released a directors cut, which helped both films. I happen to like both of those movies, but I did read the books first.
One was Blade Runner 2049 and the other was Mad Max: Fury Road. Both were boring, and IMO SUCKED beyond belief! It is unfortunate too because both films have competent actors in them as well as directors who have had successful past films. To each their own...
Nt
I am generally a fan of Spielberg's work, but there are certainly some to avoid. ROP being one of those...
Some (but not all!) of the memorable lines from the Lynch incarnation:
"In the past, you have been called Paul Atreides - but now, you shall be known as. . . Paul. . . MUAD'DIB(uh)" (Note the extra syllable intoned by the actor!)
"Usul has called a big one - again it is the Legend!"
"Muad'Dib!"
"For he IS the Kwisatz Haderach!"
"Without change, something sleeps inside us."
"And we will teach you the weirding ways!"
See? You can remember lots of lines if you try - I know you can!
Anyway. . . a further assignment for you: here's another version of Dune for your delectation - a fan edit of the Lynch version. Sorry! ;-)
View YouTube Video
Chris from Layfayette,
It's interesting you bring up these particular quotes as I remember them as:
"In the past, you have been called Paul Atreides - but now, you shall be known as. . . Paul. . . MUD'DAUB"
"Usul has called a big one - again it is the Acura Legend!"
"Mud'Daub! You need to move your Acura!"
"For he IS the Kwikimart Haberdasher!"
"Without change, the toll booth guy will keep us from going through."
"And we will teach you the welding ways!"
Bambi_B
"And, against all better judgement, I LIKE this Duke!"
So MANY great lines!
a very influential series on Frank Herbert.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
"In the past, you have been called Paul Atreides - but now, you shall be known as. . . Paul. . . MUAD'DIB(uh)" (Note the extra syllable intoned by the actor!)
"Usul has called a big one - again it is the Legend!"
"Muad'Dib!"
"For he IS the Kwisatz Haderach!"
"Without change, something sleeps inside us."
"And we will teach you the weirding ways!"
Stupid fights is all I remember.The original? Rutger Hauer. Daryll Hannah. Sean Young. Edward J Olmos. Unforgettable characters.
A great steak dinner of a film. The follow up? A greasy little burger in sopping white bread.
Edits: 10/21/21
tinear,
It's certainly the case that the two BL's are very different. I like them both tremendously precisely because of their variance in emphases. The first had a kind of magic realism about that's very involving while 2049 seemed more grounded and greyer, with more subtle, subterranean undercurrents, and also more evocative of the atmosphere I would expect of 2049 Los Angeles. I lived there for 35 years, knew a few people in the biz and LA felt like 2049 in 2009. -It was already difficult then to tell the Humans from the replicants. The replicants were a bit more outgoing,..
It's interesting that Blade Runner has always evoked strong opinions. I suppose it's proper given the underlying theme of slavery.
Bambi_B
Ana de Armas.
I'd have to see the original again, haven't for many years. I don't remember liking it as much as I liked 2049 TBH. Needs a new viewing.
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