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In Reply to: RE: "Succession:" how good can it get? posted by tunenut on December 14, 2021 at 16:23:11
I dunno... I found it rather forced, you get that impression when jokes don't happen naturally, but rather someone makes it clear he is about to make one, dumps a clearly rehearsed one, and then his delivery falls flat.I think for a naturally flowing witty dialog one has to go into the forties, but alas, that art has been replaced by "making jokes".
Edits: 12/15/21Follow Ups:
a window into the character, not meant to be a standup comic's performance. Roman, for instance, is meant to be an obnoxious clown. Shiv has a little bit of that, trying desperately to reduce the cruelty of many things she says by poor attempts at humor. Anyhow, comparing the dozens of hours of this to any single film? Not exactly fair.Not much funny since the 40s? Good God, I hope you're kidding. "Grand Budapest Hotel," "Arthur," or "Young Frankenstein" immediately come to mind...
For the record, I'm an immense fan of screwball 40s films, the work of Grant, Jean Arthur, Lombard, etc.
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Obviously. As a reference, other TV shows I found witty were Seinfeld and Veep. Of course I could list numerous movies, but let me just mention Double Indemnity, original story by the great James Cain, movie script by the great Raymond Chandler. You don't get any more real noir than them.
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