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A survey was conducted among the students of the prestigious New York State University. It was found that over 70% of them would not have passed the *basic* American history exam, the one that is normally given to the immigrants seeking naturalization. Most of them didn't know much about the Founding Fathers.On the bright side, over 90% of them correctly identified Leonardo DiCaprio as the lead actor in the movie Titanic.
"Strange times are these in which we live when the old and the young are taught falsehoods in the schools of learning. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and a fool…" - Plato-Joe.
I have heard it million times and it certainly has some truth to it, but there is simply no denying the fact that many generations do have their own flavors.Understand, that he was talking in RELATIVE terms. People tend to forget it. I am not sure Plato would survive an hour in one of our classrooms today. So you are not getting off the hook that easy...
My thoughts were a bit different. I thought "even in Ancient Greece they had bad schools!". Luckily, Greek civilization survived the mediocrity of some of its' classrooms to last for many centuries after Plato had shuffled of this mortal coil. Will the USA?There is another great quote by a Roman (Cicero, I think) where he is complaining about the young people of his time having no respect for tradition and authority and being lazy good-for-nothings (I will try and dig it up). Plus ca change, eh?
-Joe.
***My thoughts were a bit different. I thought "even in Ancient Greece they had bad schools!". Luckily, Greek civilization survived the mediocrity of some of its' classrooms to last for many centuries after Plato had shuffled of this mortal coil.By about 400bc it was all curtains. They killed Socrates. Earlier their mob banished the best and brightest. Not quite an enviable record... kind of like high school bullies taking over the control and banishing the teachers...
***Will the USA?
I think it will... but it will be changed...
***There is another great quote by a Roman (Cicero, I think) where he is complaining about the young people of his time having no respect for tradition and authority and being lazy good-for-nothings (I will try and dig it up). Plus ca change, eh?
Many things are relative, plus the societies come, reach peaks and go...
> By about 400bc it was all curtains. They killed Socrates. Earlier their > mob banished the best and brightest. Not quite an enviable record... kind
> of like high school bullies taking over the control and banishing the
> teachers...I'm not so sure we are talking about the same thing. The Greek Empire grew and became stronger under Philip of Macedon and of course Alexander the Great, his son. After that, it declined until the Roman invasion, But even under the Romans, Greek civilzation (language, philosophy, art, religeon, etc.) continued until well into the Christian Era.
-Joe.
which is seldom mentioned. We've been fighting devolution since.
Saw the game show "vs." on Comedy Central, which matches two teams of three against each other (like Family Feud). Normally, the teams are of social or political opposites (e.g., "Bikers" vs. "Highway Patrol"). On last week's show, the opposing teams were the Penthouse Pets vs. the Hustler Honeys. This proved to be a disaster for the host because neither team was able to answer most of the questions. Example: during a round in which the named object had to be correctly classified as Animal, Vegetable, or Mineral, a Hustler Honey said a "melon" was a Mineral and did not understand her error. Q: Who won the American Civil War? A: "We did?" It went on and on.
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Here's some good news: Leonardo DiCaprio is out of the running for the role of Annakin Skywalker in the next Star Wars episode.OTOH, heard that Nicole Kidman plays a dangerous Russian mail order bride in her next film. Hope she can bring humor into her role; I enjoyed her dangerous but "Susan Stone" character in Gus Van Sant's "To Die For". But like the Penthouse Pets and Hustler Honeys, this wasn't exactly a great female role model.
A Russian, bride, hah? Getting a mail order Russin bride is like having unprotected sex - you have been warned. Generally speaking, those young ladies know what they need far better than their naive "husbands".I have to admit, my love afair with Nicole was extra-short - I expect a small bit of intellect even from pretty actresses. Playing in kind of trash the she made with that other great thinker - George Clooney (sp) is probably the level of her incompetence. She was more wooden than ten Al Gores on a windy night in the Eyes...
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Let me guess, they though Virginia Madsen wrote the U.S. Constitution & Weesie from the Jeffersons wrote the Declaration of Independence.Let me guess that they must hold these lies to be self evident, that all the choosen are evolved equal & that they are endowed by the government with certain allienable rights of life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness.
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