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Watched Moroder's "Metropolis -1984" last night on video. I was not impressed as Roger Ebert, who gave it a **** out of **** rating, and said
he was not distracted by the rock lyrics in the soundtrack. I, OTOH,
felt some of the colortints were not to my liking, I feel B&W is best for this
German Expressionist film, more melodramatic contrast, conveying a more
appropriate mood and atmosphere. Possibly would have colortinted certain
scenes as the one where the mad scientist puts Marias face on the robot, certain idyllic scenes of the priviledged class and Marias "Tower of
Babel" scene. The soundtrack was also not to my
liking, I felt it was inappropriate, just didn't fit in. If I were to
have done a similar project to Moroder, I would have inserted the missing
scenes, very selected or no colortints, and experimented with a contemporary
rock
score that would have featured the works of Pink Floyd, Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Gary Numan, et al., as I believe they would have integrated
better with the film than Moroders choices.
Incidentally, as a child of the 50's; do you remember watching
"Science Fiction Theater" hosted by Truman Bradley on TV from 1955-57?
_AH
Hey look... I like this film, it's a classic, groundbreaking etc..... but when you consider the overwrought, melodramatic acting, lousy pacing, basically unlikeable or at least unmemorable characters...... and the mind-numbingly obvious symbolism that repeats over and over and over and OKAY FRITZ I GET IT ALREADY SO GET ON WITH THE MOVIE....... and the fact the film suffers from missing footage and inevitable aging...... the colorization is an improvement, and the choice of music was basically determined by 1) what was reasonably popular at the time and 2) available at a reasonable price."Great" and "enjoyable" don't always go hand in hand.
Scott
I'm not a big fan of silent films, but I do like the original "Metropolis";
one problem with silents is that the actors tend to overact/emote to make up for
the lack of dialogue. I've already stated I'd consider
using colortints in certain scenes and not in others; the music groups I
listed were available back then and should have been affordable. I too liked the 1984 version, and felt some of the
colortints improved upon the original; some of the score numbers come across as OK, but others are incongruous to me - and at times, I felt
I was getting that "Flashdance" feeling. It would be my intuitive
choice at this point to use German music groups whose music would resonate
with and amplify the theme, tone, mood and atmosphere of "Metropolis". In
lieu of the lack of dialogue, an optimal musical score would enhance the already stunning set design and visual effects of the film.
By doing that, one could maximize an already great film, and increase its
enjoyability to boot. - AH
The new, 2001 version, with missing clips, colortints and a soundtrack featuring the music of Kraftwerk ("Metropolis"; "The Robots";
"Neon Lights" and "Metal On Metal"); Tangerine Dream ("Rubycon") and
Pink Floyd ("Welcome To The Machine")! Well, whaddaya think?
Cool idea! And some great music choices.I would add Alan Parson's "I Robot" to the list.
Might be fun to dub a DAT copy to sync up with the movie..........!
... could make a high-tech animated version. Thus, not emotionallly infringing on the movies classic nature. A film remake of a different venue/medium, where payroll & F/Xs won't hord the budget. Afterall, the lion's share of F/Xs' making it look real. Not a problem.One could actually spend money on nearly extinct stategies like script & dialog & plot.
nt
... that someone as confused as "Tim Burton" would be asinined/assigned to garantee its utter&complete demise. Afterall, it's worthy project, the industry is obligated to kill it.
Don't disagree with what you said, but I was happy with it even with the colorized... well different shades of blue, sepia etc. Thought much of the music fit... Bonnie Tylor Benetar's songs and that "take blood from a stone" song at the beginning, as well as the part that went with where the robot does a bit of risque dancing. Didn't care for some of Queen's stuff and not sure about Adam Ant's song though. Tangerine Dream would have been a nice addition... Hey, wasn't Gary Newman the guy that did that mod version of "Strangers in the Night"? (I love that thing).Tangerine Dream reminds me of another 80's kinky sf movie I liked... The Keep. Loved the score TD did for that, especially where the soldiers pry the silver cross from the wall and where Scot Glenn comes to the rescue at the end. (don't know why but I loved the movie too... the book had much better forboding and some better psychological tension between some of the soldiers but was pretty lame as far as the vampire bit... at this point the film widely departs from the book. Glad they left the creature an ancient mystery in the movie).
If you basically liked "Metropolis" but are looking for "kinky"... check out "The Fabulous World of Jules Verne", and 1964(?) B/W Czech films that combines live action with wood-cut style animation and rotoscoping.... interesting sci-fi and DEFINITELY kinky.Scott
Well, for kinky my awards have to go to things like Eating Raoul, Eraserhead, Housekeeping etc. Sorta expect SF films to be strange. Hey, remember Atragon? And what was the name of that movie they did about Atlantis where they'd developed these big crystal things that could shoot heat rays? Saw a tiny 2 sec. clip out of it on a Discovery program (testing a tiny table top version of the heat ray machine)
I would consider a movie like Liquid Sky to fall into the "kinky" sci-fi category - as well as The Man Who Fell to Earth (better book than movie) and Eraserhead - not an easy movie to watch but worth the effort.The movie you mentioned about Atlantis *is* Atlantis - a George Pal production and pretty forgettable. One of the film's stars is Ed Platt ("Chief" from Max Smart) who wears a tastefully revealing toga throughout the film... very kinky indeed!
BTW - in case you were wondering - kinky is using a feather - perverted is using an entire chicken :0
& leave it be.My vote for kink has got to be "Videodrome" followed by "Sex, Lies & Videotape". These were truly intense (thought & feeling) films, not usually associated with the genre IMHO.
I've got something I want to play for you Max.... (^-^) Much better than Vampires IMHO!
... but not that way.This isn't my normal genre. These 2 are the only in my LD library that fit this definition. I shouldn't say that, I bought "Bound" but haven't managed to watch it past the 1st 15 some odd minutes. [Yawn]
Any other movies of this caliber come to mind? I like the "Children of a Lesser God" & "Omen" type intensity. Most of these movies never grip someone like Hitchcock innately understood. Unfortunately, never liked his movies' dialog. He really needed a scriptwriter worthy of his talents/efforts.
By Scott's definitions, "Videodrome" would be both kinky (the scene with
Woods and Harry, where Harry burns herself with a lit cigarette); and
perverted, (the supposedly real dungeon torture scenes broadcoast from
Pittsburgh or wheverever...).
Those KFC commericials are LOADED with chickens............!
I too read F. Paul Wilson's "The Keep" years ago and enjoyed it , as well
as seeing the movie. Also check out Tangerine Dreams score in "Near Dark" the
80's vampire flick.
Don't recall Numan ever doing "Strangers In The Night", though the British
group UFO recorded a live ablum by that name in the late 70s. Remember Numan - a British
70's till present synthplayer/vocalist - more for "Cars" his biggest hit
commercially; also, "Replicas"; "Dream Police"; "Machine&Soul"; "Stormtrooper In Drag"; "Are 'Friends'Electric?";
"Listen To The Sirens"; "Life Machine"; "Me! I Disconnect From You";
"My Love Is A Liquid", etc. Numan's bio at www.allmusic.com and sound
bites at www.cdnow.com - AH
Um, thought it was Gary Newman... was definitely synth pop with a totally new take on an old song. Have to dig out my old Beta tapes and see if I can find the one with the episode of Night Flight where I originally saw the video.
nt
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