War movies that got it right...at least according to those that were there...

You have Favorites you've never seen?, posted on May 27, 2020 at 06:55:53
oldmkvi Audiophile Posts: 10581 Joined: April 12, 2002	Bridge over the River Kwai is the only one I can actually watch.

Sorry.... I should have deleted the word... including... , posted on May 27, 2020 at 07:34:07
TWB Audiophile Posts: 7408 Location: Long Beach, California Joined: January 5, 2001	unfortunately for some reason on THIS forum you can not edit your posts....which is strange as you can on every other forum.. or at least the ones that I go into.

You can as long as you are logged on., posted on May 27, 2020 at 09:41:31
grantv Manufacturer Posts: 7724 Location: B.C. Joined: January 15, 2002	Just find and click on the edit button.

You're right! You must have to be logged into each and every ..., posted on May 27, 2020 at 10:08:29
TWB Audiophile Posts: 7408 Location: Long Beach, California Joined: January 5, 2001	forum. On the other forums that I post in it has always given me the option there but never here... I just logged in and you're right. Thanks! What do you know, you learn something new every day!

RE: You're right! You must have to be logged into each and every ..., posted on May 27, 2020 at 14:12:44
grantv Manufacturer Posts: 7724 Location: B.C. Joined: January 15, 2002	Something changed here today, it makes me pull down/double click on the Moniker entry box instead of just staying logged on. Maybe that's the issue?

List should have included 'Patton' and 'Midway', posted on May 28, 2020 at 14:35:53

dwill123
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Yes, Full Metal Jacket, posted on May 28, 2020 at 14:40:08
BillH Audiophile Posts: 3913 Location: Baton Rouge Joined: December 23, 1999	According to those who were there.

Apocalypse Now, posted on May 29, 2020 at 00:40:58
JDK Audiophile Posts: 19654 Location: Sydney Joined: June 26, 2000	My dad toured Vietnam in 1966. In 1979 or 1980 we took him to see Apocalypse Now and he said that in his time there he absolutely saw everything in the movie, except for guys fighting with ghetto blasters. He said Apocalypse Now was like a timelapse of his tour. Trying to hide from entropy John K

RE: War movies that got it right...at least according to those that were there..., posted on May 29, 2020 at 05:34:06
troutbum Audiophile Posts: 386 Location: NW Ohio Joined: January 14, 2001	WE Were Soldiers isn't bad, but a bit cheesy in parts.

AN captures the context not the history of the . . . , posted on May 29, 2020 at 22:46:30
Billy Wonka Audiophile Posts: 3760 Joined: April 25, 2013 Contributor Since: October 15, 2013	war. When I first saw it, I immediately connected with the total bullshit and craziness I had seen and experienced. People were slap-assed crazy over there. AN found ways to express it. It was a horror show moment for the US military. Truly, nobody was in charge.

That was my impression of the film too... luckily I didn't have to go..., posted on May 30, 2020 at 08:43:58
TWB Audiophile Posts: 7408 Location: Long Beach, California Joined: January 5, 2001	to find out if it was true or not.

RE: Apocalypse Now, posted on May 30, 2020 at 09:54:40
BillH Audiophile Posts: 3913 Location: Baton Rouge Joined: December 23, 1999	Interesting, because 1966 was still early days. "Apocalypse" was about a much later time, when they had surfboards and cold beer and Playboy Bunnies visiting the troops. They had also given up on the war and only the hard-guy lifers like Lt. Col. Bill Kilgore were still gung-ho.

FMJ was Kubrick's approach to VN . . . , posted on May 30, 2020 at 14:23:49
Billy Wonka Audiophile Posts: 3760 Joined: April 25, 2013 Contributor Since: October 15, 2013	Every movie was about jungles and hills so he decided to show the rare episodes of street fighting. That alone makes it unique. Finding Lee Ermie was a gift from the war gods. I also like the ironies in SPR.

The Col Kurtz character was partly based on an Australian Army guy, posted on May 30, 2020 at 17:57:08
JDK Audiophile Posts: 19654 Location: Sydney Joined: June 26, 2000	Dad knew him. He was was based in Laos, recruiting a "private" army in the villages and lived with a pet tiger... So there was plenty of crazy already going on there in the early/mid 60's. BTW, the Australian troops had plenty of beer. Apparently it was the preferred trade for American stores and munitions. Trying to hide from entropy John K

I believe so, posted on May 30, 2020 at 18:00:42
JDK Audiophile Posts: 19654 Location: Sydney Joined: June 26, 2000	When dad was in Vung Tao he got bored and was able to get on some US patrol boat runs up the river. He said they were crazy. Trying to hide from entropy John K

RE: FMJ was Kubrick's approach to VN . . . , posted on June 1, 2020 at 14:49:45

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Kubrick was paranoic about flying in an airplane.

The sets for FULL METAL JACKET may reflect more is aversion to flying than his desire to depict street by steet fighting.

He order palm trees from around the world and created an Southeast Asian environment, sort of, in the film, instead of shooting on location.

Also, I would hazard to suggest that the film was not so much about Viet Nam, per se, but more about the insanity of war. It's more about the irony of the pointless and mad heroism of war occasions, in general, as opposed to the Viet Nam conflict itself.

When considered in this light, the fake sets (including British camps masquerading as American boot camps) advance the narrative and broaden it's themes.

Regardless, FMJ is one of the all-time greats.

Agreed about the war and the setting..., posted on June 2, 2020 at 00:01:25
musetap Audiophile Posts: 31872 Location: San Francisco Joined: July 8, 2003 Contributor Since: January 28, 2004	Kubrick was such a control freak there's NO WAY be ever would have shot that on location even if could conquer his fear of flying. The tale itself could have fit most any 20th Century war. Great film and easily one of his most accessible. "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure

Per my bro n law regarding Siege At Jadotville, posted on June 2, 2020 at 22:10:15
Road Warrior Audiophile Posts: 21653 Location: Dallas Joined: August 31, 2004	"Their activity at the outpost waiting for something to happen was very similar to our activity on the LZ prior to our next fire mission." ---------------------- "E Burres Stigano?"

RE: Per my bro n law regarding Siege At Jadotville, posted on June 3, 2020 at 09:41:51
Gary Audiophile Posts: 1294 Location: New York, NY Joined: April 21, 2000	"Siege At Jadotville" - an excellent film.

Right now the worst movie ever made about Vietnam . . ., posted on June 22, 2020 at 11:29:21
BillH Audiophile Posts: 3913 Location: Baton Rouge Joined: December 23, 1999	. . .is showing on the Sundance Channel. "The Green Berets (1968)," starring and directed by John Wayne.

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War movies that got it right...at least according to those that were there...

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