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War for the Planet of the Apes...

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Posted on July 16, 2017 at 21:55:33
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 ...having seen the other two I felt I needed to see the end of the trilogy and it was in 3D.

I shouldn't have wasted my time.

It went on way too long and wasn't nearly as interesting as the other two.

I thought the first one was the best of the three, particularly with the fight on the Golden Gate bridge.

The final one was forgettable but at least it highlighted Andy Serkis as Caesar and why he should be nominated for an Oscar for best actor.

 

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RE: War for the Planet of the Apes..., posted on July 17, 2017 at 00:25:00
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 You might've had a better experience with the Spiderman Homecoming movie. Michael Keaton brings his "A" game to the Vulture role and the script is sharp from start to finish. IMO, this is the best Spidey film yet; definitely not a waste of time even for those who aren't fans.

 

Interesting, most reviews I've read/heard were fairly positive..., posted on July 17, 2017 at 05:45:21
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 ...although inclined to see it based on these reviews, most also refer to one scene as an "homage" to Apocalypse Now. The clip I heard struck me more as a rip-off and kinda off-putting

 

I liked it., posted on July 17, 2017 at 05:48:12
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 Found the reviews to be accurate.


-Wendell

 

Tedious and strange movie...with some interesting music..., posted on July 17, 2017 at 06:43:15
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 Over-sentimentalized scenes with Ceasar. Scenes went on too long and the movie lacked a symapthic human adult capable of making the story compelling--that's what gave the two previous movies some strenghth. And really, there was no war with the apes involved.,.they were just in the middle of a war among humans...and that silly avalanche solved all the ape problems. But that quirky, monotonous music is what I will remember. Disappointing.

 

No doubt..., posted on July 17, 2017 at 09:09:58
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 ...that's why the big-eyed Fanning girl was in the middle of the film.

 

I'll see Spiderman..., posted on July 17, 2017 at 09:50:21
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 ...when it comes to streaming.

 

HORRIBLE: Pegged the Metaphor Meter, posted on July 18, 2017 at 08:32:02
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 The whole thing sickened me. This was one long, dreary political statement with Col. KURTZ epitomizing evil white people. If I had know this was another social engineering tool I wouldn't have gone.

 

Really?, posted on July 18, 2017 at 09:46:59
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 ...that's what you got out of it?

You have some imagination.

Maybe has something to do with your biases?

 

RE: does the ghost of Rod Serling still haunt this franchise?, posted on July 18, 2017 at 11:34:21
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 As I recall Serling's name appears as the credits roll on the original film. In retrospect that movie had the 'feel' of an extended Twilight Zone episode. Perhaps, the best ever Twilight Zone. Particularly in that last scene that ended the movie.

The franchise does present an unpleasant upside-down world where different species, man versus ape, compete to dominate the planet.

I watched the first of the 21st century reboot of the series with James Franco. The second movie I've started to watch, became disinterested and looked for something 'better'. I guess I'm just not on board with this whole ape versus man thing.

-Steve

 

Not since the first one...(nt), posted on July 18, 2017 at 12:05:25
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RE: Really?, posted on July 18, 2017 at 13:53:47
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 What did you mean about "biases"? Is that another personal swipe?

Marty, Hwood has had an extremely strong social engineering agenda going for almost ten years. It has gotten to the point of being so blatantly obvious that I find it offensive. European and Asian films don't quite have the same drumbeat as ours which makes them preferable.

This "Apes" film had a near-zero entertainment factor and was overly long and tedious. I would like to think this is the last one if they pursue this kind of tedium.

 

Well, maybe I'm just mostly unconcsious, but I loved it., posted on July 18, 2017 at 15:02:00
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 I thought everything about it was excellent.

 

Really?, posted on July 18, 2017 at 15:24:54
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 ...you mentioned politics, evil white people and social engineering - those sound like biases to me.

Other critics have made the Kurtz reference from Apocalypse.

Maybe I'm superficial but it was just another Planet of the Apes movie to me.

And the third, last and weakest of the trilogy IMO.

 

A lot of the critics agreed with you...(nt), posted on July 18, 2017 at 15:26:39
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RE: Well, maybe I'm just mostly unconcsious, but I loved it., posted on July 19, 2017 at 04:24:21
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-Wendell

 

When does film become propaganda?, posted on July 19, 2017 at 12:20:40
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 I reduxed 'When We Were Soldiers' the other night. I had not seen it since its first release in 2002. I realized this was not about the valor of VN and the first Air Cav battle but about bodies coming home from war. War was coming and Mel pitched in to warm us up to caskets and flags. In fact, the movie was rather shoddy as if thrown together in a hurry. These are the things film makers do to accommodate agendas.

The American film-goer has been pounded with all kinds of agenda messaging over the past decade that is beyond blatant. The most hapless victims of this process have been our youth. Our rudderless kids are being constantly blown off course and distracted with social agendas that encourage convoluted thinking and behavior. Part of this problem is the politicization of our major film industries with tax cuts and other incentives to push political agendas onto the public.

There is a time and place for propaganda but the relentless push for forced social change is not one of them and our film industries should not be leading the charge for whatever incentives they manage to get.

It's wishful thinking but maybe Doris Day and the Duke need to be resurrected to save Americans from unhealthy agendas.

 

RE: When does film become propaganda?, posted on July 19, 2017 at 13:01:54
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 Do you count dinesh d'souza in that too? Because everything you decry is his stock in trade and I do NOT remember you saying jack about this when his last propaganda film came out. It's a street that goes both ways, no?

 

When does film become propaganda?, posted on July 19, 2017 at 13:11:00
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 ...when you don't agree with the message.

 

I've seen it twice, both times in Harkins premium..., posted on July 19, 2017 at 14:53:42
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 ...theaters, the Cine Capri and the Cine 1, in the Phoenix area. Both are large theaters with large, 2.4-AR screens and Dolby ATMOS sound systems. There was no apparent pixelating in either image, so I think both were 3840/4096 copies.

Giacchino's music was especially appealing.

 

"Doris Day and the Duke need to be resurrected to save Americans from unhealthy agendas.", posted on July 19, 2017 at 15:16:51
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 Yeah, the Duke never had an agenda in any of his films. hahahahaha


-Wendell

 

So did I ..., posted on July 19, 2017 at 17:54:57
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 My son and I are fans of the series, so we re-watched "Dawn" and "Rise" over the weekend and saw "War" today.

Actually, my son couldn't wait and saw it yesterday and went back with me tonight.

We both really liked it and think it was the best of the three.

I liked how the music was similar to that of the original Planet of the Apes.

Fitting for what could be interpreted as a prequel (Cornelius, Nova).

Woody H. was great.

Very entertaining and well done.

Dean.






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And neither did..., posted on July 19, 2017 at 18:34:45
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 ...Rock Hudson...

 

Dinesh is based on fact and yes, it is propaganda . . ., posted on July 20, 2017 at 08:10:42
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 I supposed you will be lined up for Al Gore's latest propaganda. I guess,he's looking to establish another carbon exchange.

 

No,when the message is manipulative and persistant., posted on July 20, 2017 at 08:13:40
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 You don't realize how much you and most of America are being used. Sad but true.

 

I was too young to pick up on his agenda until. . , posted on July 20, 2017 at 08:16:55
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 I saw 'The Green Berets' while I was actually in VN. He was definitely America First.

 

RE: I was too young to pick up on his agenda until. . , posted on July 20, 2017 at 08:22:46
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 Look up his Playboy interview. I was a big fan but he was a social neanderthal. He was a cinematic patriot who never served. A vocal anti-communist who testified before HUAC and held repugnant racial views. I liked his films but he was who he was and he always had an agenda.








-Wendell

 

No,when the message is manipulative and persistant., posted on July 20, 2017 at 09:00:38
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 ..aren't you the guy who follows the alt-right fake news?

 

LOL! Fact-based? (nt), posted on July 20, 2017 at 09:01:39
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Agenda..., posted on July 20, 2017 at 09:02:58
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 ...a social neanderthal who never served - we have an entire administration filled with them.

 

Ditto (nt), posted on July 20, 2017 at 10:41:39
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RE: No,when the message is manipulative and persistant., posted on July 20, 2017 at 13:57:06
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 Now you are getting personal. Grow up.

 

I was too young to absorb all that data . . . , posted on July 20, 2017 at 19:02:32
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 I try to see film with the idea of separating the actor from his politics. Obviously, Hanoi Jane I had a real problem with but now I cannot overlook a drunken zealot like Affleck.

 

RE: LOL! On you!, posted on July 20, 2017 at 19:05:48
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 Ever watch one of his films? He is a great researcher.

 

A great researcher..., posted on July 20, 2017 at 19:33:11
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 ...who tells you what you want to believe.

 

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