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Serious, no holes in plot sci-fi please (more)

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Can anyone recommend any serious sci fi movie. Ideally I am looking for a movie that has the special effects and the speed of a modern big budget movie without all the "holes" in the plot or the "religion" or too much unbelievable supernatural stuff (I am talking tarot reading kind of stuff when I say supernatural). Since I have been in the US only in the last few years, I have a feeling that I may yet have the chance to discover a few movies.
Or is there no such movie since the market is too limited.
BTW, if the special effects are not there it is okay. In order of importance the "serious" and "no holes" criteria are the top two.

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Hows about 'Alien.' nt gjm 15:39:40 02/03/00 (0)
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Re: Serious, no holes in plot sci-fi please (more) TAFKA Steve 15:24:41 01/29/00 (1)
Have you seen "The Andromeda Strain", based on the Michael Crichton book? I am a microbiologist by profession and can tell you that director Robert Wise packed about as much real technology (in 1970) and techniques into this film as was possible, much like Wolfgang Peterson did in "Das Boot". The main problem is that the research they conduct in four days would probably take USAMRIID and the CDC about half a year to carry out.
I was less happy with some of the science in Crichton's "Jurassic Park", but definitely a fun special effects flick.
- Read the book. Did not know 'bout movie. Will see. Ran 17:09:46 01/29/00 (0)
  Andromeda Strain.
Re: Serious, no holes in plot sci-fi please (more) JoeII-K 14:58:01 01/29/00 (1)
Here are a few, You don't say what you have seen, so I'll just give my favorite "serious" SF movies, some of these are quite old
Classics:
The Time Machine
The Day the Earth Stood Still
War of the Worlds
The Man Who Fell to Earth
Logan's Run
Silent Running
2001, A Space Odessey
Dark Star
Blade Runner
Alien (only the first movie with Ridley Scott directing)
Recent SF Movies that I've enjoyed:
Dark City
Gattaca
The Astronaut's Wife
and finally, my favorite stupid SF Movie
Starship Troopers (it's so bad, it's good)
-Joe,
- Thanks for the list. Have seen some but not all. Ran 17:11:48 01/29/00 (0)
  Gattaca was really good. Seen some others which I want to see again. Saw them on horrible black and white TVs before.
if you want real scifi, you have to read late 12:37:23 01/29/00 (1)
hi,
try the 'Beggars' series, it starts with "Beggars in Spain". It is quite possibly the best scifi ever written.
- Re: if you want real scifi, you have to read. TRUE but i need to avoid eye strain Ran 17:12:58 01/29/00 (0)
  not that TV helps but I read too much really. by the time i get done with weekly reading.....
Have you seen the "Pi"? Victor Khomenko 07:32:44 01/29/00 (4)
Anti-special-effect one. Some consider it a cult piece, I think it is a bit overdone, but for someone searching for a good sci-fi it is a must.
- Re: Have you seen the "Pi"? petew 13:58:08 02/03/00 (0)
  I was on the fence the first time I rented it--some parts of it are very good, and some parts I can't watch. The references and connections are very broad and esoteric, but not a bit foreign to the select audience this film is aimed at (ever played Go? that will make you nuts! black and white on black and white--a film in greytones dealing with black and white, good and evil, truth and illusion, finance and religion, science and art--there's too many levels here to even begin to discuss). The title itself is fair warning, and says more about what the movie is than any movie or book title I ever saw. Pi is hard logic gone amuck--the thin membrane between genious and madness--what state need you be in to pass effortlessly back and forth, without tearing the shield and bringing chaos into the "reason" of our civilization. I saw it again the other night, beaming off the satelite, and really got into it. Now I think I would put it on my "to buy" list. Yes, it's firmly in the cult film catagory. Definitely a mood piece--to be seen late at night--during the dreamtime. Falling asleep and waking again during this film only enhances it's effect.
  "The truth of a thing is the feel of it, not the think of it."
  --Stanley Kubrick
  By the way, his "system" reminds me of the film "Brazil". A tweakers nightmare.
- Urk, urp, bleeeaaahhhh BobH 09:12:17 02/03/00 (1)
  Sorry, Victor, it just came up. Pi was the silliest piece of pretense I have seen in a long time. Made me so mad, I got a refund on the rental. No flame intended; agree with your good taste otherwise.
  - No offense taken... Victor Khomenko 18:10:17 02/03/00 (0)
    I actually laughed at your sincere reaction. So you didn't care much for the Tchudnovsky brothers breakthrough? You don't think it is going to affect our lives next fiscal year? You cynical you...
- Re: Have you seen the "Pi"? THANKS will see. brother too just recommended it Ran 17:14:04 01/29/00 (0)
  Thanks

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