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I was in a hermit's cave and didn't realize The Abyss was re-released with a very different storyline until I read the DVD Resource Page. Rushed out, bought it and voila! Very cool movie + original sorta cool movie + so many extra goodies I may not sleep for a few days. Worth checking out if you liked the original even a little. Excellent transfer video and sound although not anamorphic. See the "Page" for Steve Tannehill's review.
Actually I like the "Special Edition" story much better than the original "Theatrical Release." Preachy or not, it makes much more sense and seems more coherent that way. The plot-change version was done, according to Cameron, because he didn't want to just chop lots of little pieces off here and there.The extras on the second DVD are far more than I have seen on any other. Probably too much, but you have to give them credit, if one is a true film-hound, you will get a huge fix. Hours and hours; and I still haven't read all the script and storyboard stuff. Jeeez. The hour long documentary made me appreciate some pretty difficult moviemaking though.
I do love that kind of background info. The DVD of Easy Rider has interviews that explain why the film is so "choppy". I also bought "Applesauce Now" but regret it, it's not as good as I remembered it in the cinema. But if you like film documentaries, you should try to rent "Hearts of Darkness" the film Coppola's wife made about the making of Apocalypse Now. five stars for that one.
For being a non-anamorphic it is a good looking widescreen DVD. A classic movie.
thanks for that tip. I enjoyed this 2 hour thriller/action/adventure film in it's orgional release. Unfortunately, it was 2 hours and 15 minuites long. Does this new version end with the guy dying at the bottom of the trench? yea--and the nuke going off underwater? That would have been a good film!
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Is it any different than my LD director'd cut extended footage, or is it that this version simply wasn't available in analog?
It has the original theatrical version and special edition version on one disc and the picture look's better than the LD, even tho it's not anamorphic.
there is a DVD that actually exceeds LD quality, great I've been waiting for one. I got to see it. Maybe I'll buy a DVD player.
***there is a DVD that actually exceeds LD quality***If you think LD offers a better picture than DVD - especially anamorphic DVD - than you've got one of the following problems:
* an older TV/monitor with insufficient resolution or a full-time notch filter that is rolling off the video hi-freq;
* an s-video connector that is shorting to ground or is the wrong impedance;
* your monitor's sharpness control is either "on" or if "off" your monitor still attenuates the high frequencies;
* you are sitting too close to your monitor and seeing increased resolution as either line structure or digital artifacts;
* you need glasses.Of course, when it comes to sound, LD rulez.........
I have the sharpness adjusted appropriate for my LD & S-VHS inputs on my Panasonic CT27SF (750line) which looks only slightly grainy on cable input. I find DVD's aliasing (stairwelling) & posterization (banding) & frame-dropage (strobing) annoying. I thought perhaps they finally fixed it.
I am very familiar with the CT27SF - it has good resolution but the color is skewed toward blue (can be corrected by a trained tech). Good comb filter. Sharpness should be set full off on that model and velocity scan modulation disabled. Otherwise you will see some of the cross-color noise on LDs attenuated which can be mis-interpreted as superior resolution (like ss grain passing for more resolution in audio).
Aliasing and posterization problems are inherent in your monitor, not in your DVD player (as long as it does not have a first gen/9 bit processor). I have never heard of frame dropping - please elaborate - if it is as you say it sounds like a problem with your dvd player. The two major artifacts of DVDs - for the most part solved with higher horsepower processors and better disc mastering techniquest - are bursts of artifact noise (like when a satellite feed breakds up) and "mosquito noise" (looks like rain in the backround of the picture).I am not putting down your monitor - it is okay - but hardly state of the art, and not really a good indicator of DVD quality. FWIW, I own three of Pioneer's top LD players - all tuned to the teeth - and they produce very fine pictures, close to DVD in many respects, but are all eclipsed by any middle of the road 3rd gen. DVD player.
Scott
... is when the actor pops from the right side of the screen to the left w/o running through the center. Or, somebody slowly moves their head & it looks like they have Parkinsons disease. The frame in between wasn't expanded in time to project. Thus, it was dropped & the last one was played twice instead.A lot of digital cable is doing that now too, which is pissing me off. I'm paying more for less quality. So, I went back to analog. The stations expanders do it less often than the home ones. I tried to have the box fixed, but their tech couldn't see it. However, my brother who currently works on cable line gear does & he hasn't forgiven me since.
It ranks down there with each of us pointing out flaws in eachothers systems. However, once fixed, the result is formidable. The trick is to communicate. An artsy mechanical engineer vs. book-worm electronic technician ... need I say more?
...Just kidding. But truthfully I have heard or read of the problem you are describing as "frame dropout" for DVD playback. Have you ever seen this happen on any other system than your own? If not I would surmise that the glitch is unique to your system. Sounds like you've got a player with a bad chip as an artifact as severe as what you describe is completely unacceptable and would have gotten a lot of bad ink.By any chance is your dvd player connected via coaxial input (not s-video or component input) and are you using a MIT Res-Link cable? This might account for the problem you are having as that cable inserts a delay between chroma and luma signals by design.
I haven't found one w/o it yet on all the tons of places I've went looking for high-end HT/audio gear. I was so hoping the CAL CL-25 was better with the massively parallel engines, but nobody has one because of the restricted output. I think the stores wanted component & it didn't offer it. So, all they had was the CL-20 which did it too.
"picture look's better than the LD, even tho it's not anamorphic" this wasn't a DVD vs LD. I've watched the LD version quite a bit, my comment was just on seeing both format's of the Abyss only. Sorry if read anything else in to it.
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