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In Reply to: Re: dunno if they 'qualify' for the category. posted by kuma on April 08, 2000 at 22:59:08:
You are on to something about artfulness and artificiality being essential to the great films of this genre. "Making the scene too real" is not the best noir. I guess that could extend from b and w, to outlandish dialog & characters, unusual camera angles, etc., etc. Think Dr. Strangelove would classify as noir? Never even thought of that one before.I'm compiling a list from a book I just read. Not sure if it would be boring. I know I could use it for my own future viewing. BTW, it includes just about every film you mentioned and is mainly "classic" noir from the 40's and 50's.
I'd say Dr. Strange Love is more of a 'black' comedy.I laughed my ass off watching it. Even though the film is highly stylised (both in script and cinematography), does not belong in film noir category.
The Fail Safe with Fonda (almost simulteniously released has a similar plot line as the Dr. Strange Love) might be closer.
A great masterpiece & classic.
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