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Saw this film tonite. It is mildly entertaining. It's actually kind of interesting.This comedy makes "Dumb and Dumber" seem too Hollywoodish. The true dummies are beginning to surface!!
The three main characters are so nerdy disjointed. They are the opposite of Hollywood heroes. They are preoccupied, dull, can't relate at all to people. Really poor conversational skills. The main character really doesn't open his eyes. The three are as pathetic as they come.
But the "normal" people are just as bad off as the three. There is no normal in this film. Everyone is pathetic. I think that is the point.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I think not. This film pokes fun at american life and american culture. How stupid can we get?? Real stupid!! See the movie and see for yourself.
The main character seems at first so way out there. I mean retarded too. And the director really wants to show, it seems to me, how this teenager (rebel) is really better off than most of the others. And the director pulls it off.
The movie is absurd. The satire of american life is really very good. (There is a political satire here too, poking fun at american politics.)
The culture has become so ridiculous that you have to go to the absurd to match it and that is what this film does. It goes all the way and there is one pathetic scene after another to kind of savor.
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Haven't seen the film but there is a spectrum of autism called aspergers which is characterized by terrible social skills, pedantic talk and obsession with arcana. Just wondering if the characters are simply nerds or beyond to aspergers?
They are beyond nerds. They stand very awkwardly. The three main actors would look more normal if they faced a wall.They must have that disease, plus the director, and everyone that enjoys this film.
This disease is really contagious.
After watching this film, you desire to act and to think in ways so stupid that you never would have thought of before.
It's an undiscovered part of us inside. Let it out!!
Its the old "Its funny because its true." Autism and aspergers is on a spectrum and so many can have traits that are aspergerish without the diagnosis. You get that diagnosis only if you are so bad to be unable to manage your symptoms. One might say that an aspergerish trait could be audiophilia. Generally, someone with true aspergers is going to have sensory problems with taste, textures, sound, smells or light that make them quite difficult as well. It is my theory that the rise of the uber geeks in our society is populating or poisoning the gene pool with asperger and autistic traits. These are genes that never would see the light of day in a hunter society.
...this movie is currently the fave of my 14 year old daughter and her friends. They've seen it mulitple times ans think it's the "coolest move ever".It is essntially a meditation on late middle school and early high school years. Not much of a plot, just a series of pretty random events. Napoleon is so dorky - that he's very cool - a real individual. Especially compared to his family members. What makes him so cool is his attitude - he basks in his dorkiness and doesn't seem to care what anyone else thinks. Even the jocks that pound on him can't get Napoleon down.
This period in a young person's life is all about trying to fit in and be accepted - while your body and personality are going through many changes. It's a time of great insecurity and self-doubt.
At the end there's the scene where Napoleon blows away the whole school with his dancing skills - every young person's dream to do something so dramatic which makes them accepted, in spite of themselves.
I don't think it's much of a satire on America. If you listen to the director's commentary, the film is based on some real places and real events, albeit rural Idaho.
You just have to see it through the eyes of a 14 year old to really understand the movie. It's not for everyone.
I'm a bit worried that I read too much into this movie. Like the Woody Allen movie that he directs blind. In the end, the French hail it as a masterpiece.It could be a satire from the director's unconscious.
I don 't care. I'm ready to buy it!! I want to see it again. It will be my poster child of aburdity of this culture.
Or maybe my birth certificate is wrong. Maybe I've been tricked and I'm really 14.
I liked it but not for the reasons that adolescents might. Even the dancing scene wasn't that dramatic. He was good for a change, but not great. That it changed the election outcome was really more of a satire on present day politics, where people win on song, dance, and personality.
> That it changed the election outcome was really more of a satire on present day politics, where people win on song, dance, and personality.>You're analyzing it and reading way too much into it. It's just a silly movie about a nerdy guy with a positive attitude and his redemption.
Every teenager I've talked to loves it. I'm back East now visiting family and have discussed it with my teenage neices and nephews - they have all seen it multiple times. It's a teenage cult film.
This is a simple 'coming of age' in the new millenium movie.
Yes, it satirizes contemporary american culture, but it is just a movie about some kids coming to grips with who they are and what they are about.I find the differences in dialogue and character portrayal of the protaganists compared to the others. Just the opposite of what one would expect...but it reminds me of Hal Hartley, who is one of my favorites.
I found it quite entertaining and everyone I have talked to liked it as well.
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One person on the net says:"Thsi movie was absolutely horrible. I mean can you say stupid. Nobody in their right mind would go see it."
Another says:
"This film just makes you laugh because it is so true to life".
Can you imagine the world that the second person is living in??!!
The first simply doesn't LIKE the film.
Others see something enjoyable about this tale of 'loosers' that triumph. Did you like 'Revenge of the Nerds'?Another second world film.
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The theatre was packed with high-schoolers and their parents who stayed the course, though.
( huh? )
Threre's a cumulative effect from seeing so much "patheticism" (is that a new word?).My "girlfriend" bailed out also after a while. But not after a few heated exchanges. We both said: "that's your family on the screen".
She essentially accused me of being stupid for putting this stupid movie on the screen.
But I think I ultimately get the last laugh as I curiously watched her on the treadmill this morning, twisting her head all the way around to watch Jerry Springer, as the treadmill does not face the tv.
I said: "You need a little tv right in front of the treadmill for your little head".
I know now I can't look at anything "right" anymore. Thanks to "Napolean Dynamite", the final straw to teach me just how absurd everything really is, especially our lives in this culture.
The key to this movie is that nothing in it is really well-done. No real zingers. It's anti-hollywood. Everything is off. It's an odd key.
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