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In Reply to: Re: Well, sometimes the line between emotional and posted by patrickU on February 14, 2005 at 09:38:43:

I'd suggest a '98 (anything newer may have a bit too much overwhelming fruit yet) Chehalem (small vineyard selection), WillaKenzie (French owners and winemakers!), Beaux Freres (part-owned by Rob't. Parker), Broadley (Claudia's Choice), Cristom (NOT Jefferson vineyard, but any other reserve), Archery Summit, and Brick House.
I'd stay away from Ken Wright, Tori Mor, Penn-Asher, especially...
If you cannot obtain the older ones, '99 and 2000 are excellent years: of course, decanting a couple of hours before consumption is a must!

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Re: Touch�! Now, about Pinot: - patrickU 04:38:38 02/15/05 (3)
Thank you Tin. I will try to cach one of them. As I was walking this morning I saw in a shop one bottle of Pinot 1998 " Byron " Nielson Vineyard Santa Maria Valley, wo was down in price, ( $ 24 ) so I bought it, this evening I will give it a go.
- Re: Touch�! Now, about Pinot: Tin- - patrickU 09:44:14 02/15/05 (2)
  So I did.
  Good wine, for the money excellent. Has not the finesse of the one of Bourgogne, but for this price the Bourgogne have also not!
  In fact its better than the French ( I know..) for this price tag.
  Far more better,
  - Mon chere, mon chere! You have drunk a California one... - tinear 13:01:42 02/15/05 (1)
    Now, see my list and try for an Oregon example.
    The climate in Oregon, of course, is quite different from that of Bougogne. The Pacific acts quite differently, with steady rain for 7 months of the year, cool temperatures, followed by very good heat and almost absolute drought to finish up the final 4-5 months. The trick is to pick immediately after the first "serious" rain hits, usually in September.
    When last in Paris (for our 3-wk. honeymoon) we consumed pretty much only French bourgogne. I was quite disappointed. Several years previously, I had travelled from one end of B to the other. Getting to know the folks at different wineries helped immensely: I got excellent French pinots I could afford. Your wines seem to take a LOT longer to lose the "sulphuric" effect.
    Anyhow, forget CA and try OR.
    - Re: I know I know! - patrickU 05:21:32 02/16/05 (0)
      It is even written on the bottle...He-he...As I told you It just was a Pinot and American and sold out, and I did not regret it.
      The next will be an Oregon.
      The Bourgogne are just too expensive now.
      When you got one good bottle you are in paradise. A very intellectual wine.
      Yes you should wait at least five years.
      Jadot makes some affordable good one.
      But now I WANT to try that Oregon wine...
Re: Touch�! Now, about Pinot: - Victor Khomenko 16:48:05 02/14/05 (1)
Sould you provide the price ranges for these? I'll check my good store here.
- Unless your local store guy has a passion for Oregon - tinear 12:56:52 02/15/05 (0)
  Pinot, you'll not be able to find one showing well now...they'd probably be 2002s.
  The ones mentioned (get special designates for all, if possible) should range from high twenties (Chehalem) to 90 (Archery Summit vineyards such as Arcus fetch, perhaps, over 100; Beaux Freres (resist Beaux Soeurs like the plague) expect to pay around 65 for BF).
  If you have any good whites, perhaps an exchange? I'm drinking my '98s now and, though a tad young, they're showing very well.
  I hate the thought of anyone (even you :--)) drinking such good wines before their time.

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