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Held my nose and watched the Control Room

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Victor Khomenko

Last time tin challenged my assertion Al Jazeera was heavily anti-West and anti-Jews. After seeing it in its complete form I only feel stronger.
So perhaps it is indeed right for people to see the fiml, and thus - their nature. It comes through clearly enough, never mind all those polite manners.
It is a difficult viewing, as I suspect many don't enjoy seeing liars lie - I know I don't - but it is important to know their mindset.
Any surprises? None.
And remember, this film is NOT about Al Jazeera - it is about perhaps the most trivial, and easy to sympathize with, part of their history - the war in Iraq. Al Jazeera did not start, not end, then. It came to it with long history, and it is continuing today doing what it has been doing all along.
The Iraq war episode was selected intentionally, as the war split the community, so it was easier to count on supportive audience.
So if you have any doubts about that organization - take a look. If not - ignore, as there is really nothing new in that film.
Tin was impressed the guy wanted his kids live in the US. Well, perhaps he is just too impressionable.

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Re: Held my nose and watched the Control Room - sjb 10:15:56 03/21/05 (0)
"Where are we going? And what am I doing in this hand basket?"
Then how can you watch the... - mkuller 09:30:51 03/21/05 (0)
...Bush white House manipulate the news. They spent $254 million of our money on PR to place "news stories", pay commentators to say nice things about their programs, etc.
> It is a difficult viewing, as I suspect many don't enjoy seeing liars lie - I know I don't - but it is important to know their mindset.>
What al-Jazeera is doing is no different than what we're doing.
No, I did not. I challenged your statement that the film - tinear 07:00:35 03/21/05 (3)
showed its HATRED.
The journalists are SHOWN admitting their bias, one even saying its hard to remain objective when Americans are destroying your country and killing your fellow Arabs (try finding an American news source airing one of its journalists saying anything like that).
These kinds of discussions would be easier if you'd be a tad more specific with what you objected to. The documentary I saw showed people, both the journalists and the Iraqi citizens, in great fear for their lives.
You don't mention at all the killing of the AJ journalist or the other 2 attacks on the two other Arab news orgs. Hard to refute the contention that American forces were told to execute these journalists. The scene of the American jet firing those lethal missiles was especially powerful. I'll bet you didn't enjoy hearing the slain AJ newsman's wife, either. This happened, it is real. Deal with it.
As I said before, the difference is honesty. Fox lies that it is "fair and balanced" while AJ acknowledges it is an Arab source with an Arab pov. Still, I didn't see any lies in the documentary. Help me out?
- Now... that is somehow different from what I said? - Victor Khomenko 07:15:12 03/21/05 (2)
  As I said, I don't care much about that film, as anything could be presented in any light the film maker wishes - there are nice powerful films about great life in Nazi Germany, and this kaka is a pure manipulative piece of garbage.
  But hate is something more clear, and something the top coat of fresh paint will not cover. What you apparently completely missed, was the brief expression of it by several people. Usually it happened somewhat outside the main story line, but those brief expressions were quite clear. I don't want to watch it again just to give you some quotes, but the constant mentions of "massacre of Pelestinians", US - Israel connection, and other such revealing drops were everywhere, in words, jestures, etc.
  But of course, if you don't see it then you don't see it.
  - Observing the Terrorist Nation of Israel's crimes is anti-Jewish? - Donald 02:54:09 03/31/05 (0)
    You're hopelessly deluded if you see no point in observing the plight of the Palestinians, or think the unholy U.S.-Israeli alliance bears no relevance to the Middle-East's other problems. Al-Jazeera spares neither side in the ongoing quagmires, and their failing to tow the U.S. line on these matters a la the American media is hardly evidence of bias or dishonesty. Al-Jazeera is an astonishingly fair and level-headed news agency.
    How easy and blissful life must be to go through it unburdened by anything so cumbersome as facts and logic.
  - I'm afraid you are a sterling - tinear 10:52:54 03/21/05 (0)
    example a brainwashed guy. Twice in this documentary the Arab interviewees acknowledged that Iraqis (and Arabs in general) were linking, however incorrectly, the Palestinian conflict and the Iraqi one. AJ MENTIONED IT. They didn't say it was true, Victor, they just pointed out the difference, in their words, between perception and reality (rather, they let the Marine pub relations guy say it).
    Again, AJ is HONEST in their news service, telling the viewer upfront what their position is. Fox is disreputable and disgusting because they lie with their byline before they even begin "reporting."
    See it again and notice what the anti-American expressions are like by the reporters. Now, the guy whose brother and family had been blown up, and was covered with blood, do you expect him NOT to have a touch of hatred? Letting this man speak is a valuable part of the news and not to report it---as American reporters don't---is truly to misinform, lie, and cheat the viewer.
did your wife make you sit through it for the hunk?...........* - jaiva 03:30:56 03/21/05 (0)
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