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In Reply to: Any advance word on Cinderella Man? I hated Cinderfella! nt posted by clarkjohnsen on May 28, 2005 at 09:00:37:
are flawed. The more they attempt to show the fights themselves, the more ridiculous they appear.
Raging Bull set the low-water mark: if any one punch were as devastating as those received or given by Mr. DeNiro, the match would end then and there. It is as ridiculous, in its way, as the Ahnie shoot-em-ups.
After Million Dollar Baby, we deserve a better rest between rounds.
Someone needs to tell Hollywood that no metaphor for life is needed. Getting up to go to work in a cubicle for 18 k/yr. takes as much courage as fighting for the championship of the world for megabucks.
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They of course had to spruce up the action, as real fights are quite boring looking to average folks. Good punches are simply too quick to be visible. Even more so in fencing, where a novice will not see anything happen... hence the special techniques designed just for stage or screen.Why are you having problem with that? Fime convey the sense, the emotion of events, not events themselves.
How many times have you see a flying bullet in slo mo? If done well, it serves its purpose, and can be an effective too.
Well, it can be seen as good effect or just as more effect. One of the best jobs of convincing sound during combat was in the scenes from "Saving Private Ryan" as they were not the usual "stock" gunshot sounds such as "pops" and "richchets". Things sound much different at each end of a gun with distance making things even more dramatic. For instance, not hearing the "pops" but rather the occaisional "dull thud" or "whoosh" as a piece of lead lands about you is about as real as it gets and scary as hell. The subsequent loss of hearing after a near shell blast, it was pretty intense and not at all what one has come to expect from "Hollywood".
I have to agree about the fencing bit although I never really considered it before. They generally do show a slow, bending foil when the opponent is hit! Details can help with the realism when acting needs to take a back seat for scenes without dialogue, etc.
-Bill
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