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• Re: It all depends - rico 10:18:20 02/28/06 (0)
  In Reply to: Do you care for remastered Dolby 5.1 surround on classic films? posted by La Dolce Vita on February 27, 2006 at 15:02:16:

  If the original was in stereo or Dolby Surriound then yes, I would want it uodated to Dolby Digital or DTS. Even a mono movie like "The Terminater" benefits enormously from a 5.1 mix. But don't mess with "Casablanca" or "Citizen Kane".

  I think the best codec of all is dolby Pro Logic II music. I play all stereo material through it (FM, lp's, cd's, laserdiscs, cassette tapes) and it is like updating my entire collection of music and movies.
  
  

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• Re: Yes I do! - patrickU 05:23:41 02/28/06 (1)
  In Reply to: Do you care for remastered Dolby 5.1 surround on classic films? posted by La Dolce Vita on February 27, 2006 at 15:02:16:

  I try to avoid them like the black pleague or the, in a more modern way, the bird flue.
  I want to see an art peice like the director intend it to be.
  But that may be old fashionned.
  Colorised pictures and in 5.1, that is the worst, one can ever met.
  
  

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  • "I want to see an art peice like the director intend it to be." Give us Cinema Paradiso! - Victor Khomenko 06:25:27 02/28/06 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: Yes I do! posted by patrickU on February 28, 2006 at 05:23:41:

    Dive us a room filled with Italian common people, workers, store keepers, laborers... all sitting on uncomfortable chairs, smoking non-stop, making silly loud jokes...

    My early visits to the movies were not too different... in fact... you could clearly hear the projector, and that original movie theater sound, leaving no doubt it came from a tube amp and a single sound track on a 16mm film...
    

    
    
    
    

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• I prefer multitrack. Mono sounds as bad to me as B&W still fotografy looks--it's inherently fony. (NT) - jeffreybehr 15:48:58 02/27/06 (6)
  In Reply to: Do you care for remastered Dolby 5.1 surround on classic films? posted by La Dolce Vita on February 27, 2006 at 15:02:16:

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  • Re: I prefer multitrack. Mono sounds as bad to me as B&W still fotografy looks--it's inherently fony. (NT) - Wendell Narrod 18:54:05 02/28/06 (0)
    In Reply to: I prefer multitrack. Mono sounds as bad to me as B&W still fotografy looks--it's inherently fony. (NT) posted by jeffreybehr on February 27, 2006 at 15:48:58:

    Wow, I guess Ansel Adams simply wasted his life. There can be more truth in a black and white photograph than the very best color print. The same holds true for film as well.
    
    

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  • A synthesized multi-track mix of an original mono soundtrack is inherently phony (nt) - Bersani 16:48:46 02/27/06 (4)
    In Reply to: I prefer multitrack. Mono sounds as bad to me as B&W still fotografy looks--it's inherently fony. (NT) posted by jeffreybehr on February 27, 2006 at 15:48:58:

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    • so is a movie. nt - dave c 22:51:28 02/27/06 (0)
      In Reply to: A synthesized multi-track mix of an original mono soundtrack is inherently phony (nt) posted by Bersani on February 27, 2006 at 16:48:46:

      bleep
      
      

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    • They don't create multichannel soundtracks out of thin air, they created them... - jeffreybehr 21:28:18 02/27/06 (2)
      In Reply to: A synthesized multi-track mix of an original mono soundtrack is inherently phony (nt) posted by Bersani on February 27, 2006 at 16:48:46:

      ...if they still have the descreet tracks originally recorded--and mixed down to mono.

      So it's the mono track that's fony, not the discreet originals.

      And it's multitrack, not multi-track.
      
      

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      • You said the magic word: IF - Bersani 22:26:17 02/27/06 (0)
        In Reply to: They don't create multichannel soundtracks out of thin air, they created them... posted by jeffreybehr on February 27, 2006 at 21:28:18:

        While I'm not an expert, I'd wager most old films that are typically featured in mono only have a mono soundtrack to work with. Going beyond mono in filmmaking was likely a complex proposition back in the day. I think that's the type of movie the original poster was referring to.

        Even with stereo soundtracks, the stereo effect is usually the result of the manual panning of sounds recorded in mono (just like most music recordings). It could be easily considered a "phony" effect, but that's nitpicking.

        Bottom line: if it was recorded in mono, don't mess with it. (Though I have to admit some bias since I don't use a surround audio system. I'm more than happy with two very nice channels and a video projector.)

        
        Also, thanks for the spelling lesson; you are correct. I'd like to return the favor: try "discrete" and "phony" next time ;)

        
        -Anthony

        
        
        

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      • Ah: One from my "Obsolete Space Junk" collection takes care of this - grinagog 22:02:42 02/27/06 (0)
        In Reply to: They don't create multichannel soundtracks out of thin air, they created them... posted by jeffreybehr on February 27, 2006 at 21:28:18:

        

        a Yamaha surround sound processor that synthesises 6-channel surround from any audio Mono/Stereo input
        Predates 5.1 and even Dolby virtual surround ( 1983? )
        Has a menu of "venue ambiences" that include Tokyo Church, Movie Theatre, Village Vanguard, Concert Hall in Europe...
        Remote controlled and geeky, ( sounds wonderful too! )

        Grins
        
        

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