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In Reply to: You think that was sarcastic. posted by john dem on November 05, 2001 at 05:19:34:
""The success or failure of special effects shots especially in science fiction films determines a viewers "suspension of disbelief". Is that so ? Do you really have to "suspend your disbelief" to appreciate a film ? I guess then Ted Turner is right- colorize all B&W films NOW!"Come on, how moronic. The use of black and white in cinema is an artistic choice - yes, even way back into the 1930s. Although in some instances, the choice was for budget reasons, in the most part, B&W film is used for asthetic value. The contrasting effects you can get between shadows & light areas on B&W are very different from colour, and depending on the DOP used on the film, can be far superior.
Take the "Elephant Man", for example, a brilliant film shot on B&W, at a time when B&W film was MORE EXPENSIVE to use than colour!!! I suppose you'd prefer that this film was colourised also? Ditto for "Dead Man".
YAY! Let's colourise everything!! Dr Strangelove, Lolita, Citizen Kane, The Elephant Man, Dead Man, The Big Sleep, Casablanca, The Third Man, A streetcar Named Desire, etc - let's vaporise the medium - Duuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Follow Ups:
If you actually know something about a healthy discourse, particularly the Socratic use of irony, then it might dawn upon your simple mind that that you
and I are in complete agreement (which is more painful for me to admit than it ever will be for you).Of course, this assumes you have an attention span that exceeds that of a distracted gnat.
ps. You will not find the Socrates in Star Wars, he is of course a character from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
Despite the persistent rumors, the relationship he had with Keanu Reeves was purely platonic.
John,
Do you actually know anything practical about filmmaking at all? Or is your knowledge actually relegated to mere theory and criticism? Are you just a glorified film nut, who contributes nothing at all to the art form? Or can you back up your words with real (practical)cinematic evidence that you actually know what you write about? Have you ever made anything other than a home movie (or have you even made one of those)??I am both a director and a film fan, whose (comparitavely) short career far surpasses (I'll bet) anything you've done in the cinematic world. I'm sure with your obviously well educated, yet definitely practically lacking mind, you'll know what they say about film critics.......
"Of course, this assumes you have an attention span that exceeds that of a distracted gnat."
Thinly veiled personal insults don't work with me, in fact it says alot about you.
ps, how ironic that you criticize AuPh for bringing up "Star Trek" as an example when you use "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" ........and yes, I can tell that it's your cringe-worthy attempt at humour, but the mere fact that you know enough about it to use this film as an example speaks volumes about your relevance as a critic.
Why didn't you just present an example of the use of Socratic thought in film? Dead Poets Society comes to mind. Can you think of another one???? Come on, jump on the search engine!!pps, And, no, I won't give you my real name.
Why don't you just admit that you completely misunderstood my post, and my exhortation to colorize films was in fact an attempt to reduce Auph's assertion about the suspension of disbelief to an absurd conclusion.Auph understood it. Any reasonable adult could understand it.
You didn't- you took it literally, which I suppose most 10 year old intellects are prone to do.
"I am both a director and a film fan, whose (comparitavely) short career far surpasses (I'll bet) anything you've done in the cinematic world."
I do in fact have an extremely large penis.
But I am also prepared to accept that you are a better director than George Lucas, and that you have probably directed more films than he has.
And you probably don't steal other director's ideas, scenes and even plots from others. Unlike George.
"how ironic that you criticize AuPh for bringing up "Star Trek" as an example when you use 'Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure' "
Duh ! You are a slow learner. The Bill and Ted reference was an insult, not humor- it was directed at your adolescent intellect. It implied you are the type of person who would think Socrates was some dude from a teen B film.
There has been no proof to the contrary.
"pps, And, no, I won't give you my real name. "
Yeah- right. As if disclosing your real name could somehow make you smarter.
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