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Greatest: "Gone With The Wind" - 1939; "The Ten Commandments" - 1956.
Lousiest: "Glen Or Glenda" - 1953.
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NT
Citizen Kane is my top film. I have seen it many times and totally love it.The Last Movie was made in 1970 by Dennis Hopper. Hot on the heels of his success with Easy Rider (a classic) he made this piece of incomprehensible dreck. Was he making a modern western? Did he think he was making the American 8 1/2? Whatever. He should have gone fishing instead of making this piece of crap. It is not the dull sludge you would get from an Ed Wood or some idiotic teen epic. It is in a league of its own - drug-addled, undisciplined, and totally stupid. It's my vote for worst not because it is totally awful - it isn't - but because it could have been a good movie if the director and star (Dennis Hopper) had less ego, more discipline, and a stint at a rehab clinic. Or the producers could have just said "NO." Somehow it ends up being much less than the lowest grade potboiler. Why? Because Hopper is so talented. He could have made a fine film - he made Easy Rider - but he came up with this! You can ignore the grade-z flicks. The ones that should have been good but weren't are the disappointments and The Last Movie redefined disappointment.
that has to rank up there with the worst of the worst...who would make such a louzy picture?
i suspect a Republigun plot...
made by the same people who faked the bin Laden "confession" tape
NT
Greatest: Citizen Kane--this is not actually in my top 10 favorite movies, but I try to separate what I like from what I think is good. I do enjoy the film, though.Lousiest: Armageddon (the trailers on Pearl Harbor looked really, really, really bad, but I have not seen it)
I am only considering major studio releases. I watched a movie called The Phantom From 10,000 Leagues on DVD a few days ago that was even worse than Armageddon, which I hadn't actually thought possible. I enjoy Sci-Fi B-movies, but this one was just too horrible, and it also looked like it had been sourced from a VHS tape.
Todd
Best - Love and Death (1975 - I think)
Worst - Nothing But Trouble (Who knows, who cares?)
Now that I think about it, you could substitute any film from that noted thespian, Steven Seagal, for On Deadly Ground. It would take a lot of bandwidth to list all the bad films, since 90% of the movies made are crap, IMO. Glen or Glenda is another hilariously bad Ed Wood film, fun if your're in the right frame of mind. Best films? My favorites are-
Casablanca
The Sting
Gone With the Wind
The Philadelphia Story
Bride of Frankenstein
Young Frankenstein (Bride & YF make a great double feature!)
Ben Hur
Star Wars
Braveheart
It's a Wonderful Life
Shane
The Shawshank Redemption
Vertigo
Psycho
Rebecca
Apollo 13
The Magnificent Seven
A Fish Called Wanda
Beauty & The Beast (Disney)There was an interesting article in the morning paper today about the best films of the past year being "childrens" films (Shrek, Monsters Inc., Harry Potter). I can't really argue with the premise of the article- any of the Pixar films (Toy Story 1 & 2, Bugs Life, Monsters Inc) were more enjoyable than any of the live action films made in the last few years, IMO. There are also a lot of films that are arguably not great movies but certain actors make them enjoyable for repeat viewings- the Pink Panther series comes to mind, Peter Sellers was so brilliant. Fun thread!
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NT
Jaws.
Not in my top ten, but a decent movie.
I think SS gets unfairly tarred for his tendancy to make movies through rose colored lenses. Sort of the same way Paul McCartney was hounded for only writing "Silly Love Songs" while John was busy doing "serious" work.
nt
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Repo Man is just a thoroughly fantastic movie. Sure, you can point to epic masterpieces like the Godfather and Gone With the Wind, but Repo Man's quirky perfection is poetic.The Avengers wins as the worst because not only did they make a truly unwatchable movie - they did it with a HUUUGE budget and an amazing cast. I mean, Ishtar, Showgirls and Petey Wheatstraw (The Devil's Son-In-Law) and the like are so bad that you can't help laughing at how bad they are, but the Avengers was so bad that you couldn't even laugh, you had to sit there and vocally curse the screen.
The worst major release movie I ever sat through was Robin Williams version of Popeye. But there are plenty of stinkers out there.Best and worst lists are so subjective. My FAVORITE movie is "It's A Wonderful Life", hard to say what the BEST is, though.
I would've listed "Ready to Wear" (Pret-a-Porter) at the top of my stinker list. It falls under the category "Just shoot me (...if I have to sit through this one again)" -- BTW, if you haven't seen this dog-poop of a film, avoid it like you would letters addressed from anonymous New Jersey 4th graders!AuPh
As the most of Altman movies.
Well, I can see why some may not like it, but "lousiest film of all time"?
Go and try to sit trough Bicentennial Man. Starring Robin Williams, of cause.
Hard to believe, but there are Ed Wood diehards out there who actually
like this incoherent, boring, stupid atrocity. Some of them say it was
his best film, as if that would somehow elevate it out of the
garbage dump. As one reviewer at www.imdb.com aptly said,
"As always with Wood, the story is the first casualty".
"Glen or Glenda" is all the more a painful viewing experience because
it offers so little comic relief to counter the tediousness. I still
think the "femtosecond" is smallest unit of time, that is, the time
it takes a lightbeam to traverse the diameter of an electron. I
wouldn't recommend anyone spending even that much time submitting
themselves to such a travesty. If you think I exaggerate, watch it
and find out for yourself, but don't come back crying because
I warned you! - AH
... I do like some Altman movies. However, to my knowledge there are few directors who are more hit and miss. Judging solely from Popeye (i.e., also with "Bicentennial Man's" Robin Williams) and Pret-a-Porter (aka Ready to Wear) one might be inclined to wonder what "genius" had the inspiration to green-light Altman directing either project; in the case of the latter, how such a piece of (subjective) dog crap even got green-lighted in the first place! OTOH, after viewing brilliant films like M.A.S.H. or The Player one might have difficulty believing that the same man actually helmed clinkers like Popeye and Ready to Wear. In the final analysis I guess "quirky" probably describes Altman's style best, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the famed director completely agreed with that assessment!AuPh
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Not my favorite, but a kind of cultural icon of the era in which it was made.I confess I'm a Jimmy Stewart fan; probably because he's part of my alma mater's hagiography.
Hi,
I'm just a regular guy. I don't like a lot of sentimental mush. I define an excess of anything as pornography; ergo, that's pornography.
I'm also a 'show me' kind of guy; and I'll believe any religous statement you can prove. Just ain't my cuppa.
Makes a good, accessible example of why faith and confidence in the financial sector is a good thing.
I believe you misconstrued JAD's statement when you disagreed. There
should be no disagreement as he said that his FAVORITE film was
"It's A Wonderful Life",it seems to me that this was based more on subjective considerations
than any overwhelming objective criteria. I
also don't particularly care for "IAWL", but I wouldn't consider it
proper to disagree with him or anyone else about their
favorite film. I might, however, take issue with someone who proclaimed a certain film as "Best" or "Greatest" and ask for some
kind of objective justification. - AH
Thanks for the clarification, AH, you've crystalized my thoughts most coherently.Any sort of subjective assesment of film is purely opinion. So long as the cameraman hasn't cut off the actors' heads and the dialogue is audible I guess any film could conceivably be nominated for best film ever.
How would one go about judging the greatest work of art of all time? The Mona Lisa or Starry Night? Dada or Impression? Pat's or Geno's?
Just don't tell me you don't like "It's A Wondeful Life" after I've had a few, you'd be in for a long night.
Judging works of art as the greatest often generates a certain
amount of controversy, especially when there are multiple contenders
for the honor, and those works of all of exceptional quality and
adherents of each have compelling arguments.
A couple of years ago, the American Film Institute (AFI) released
a list of the TOP 100 American Films of the 20th Century. Selection
was performed by AFI's "blue-ribbon panel" of more than "1500 leaders
of the American movie community".
I provide you with the TOP 10 from that list: 1)Citizen Kane; 2)Casablanca; 3)The Godfather; 4)Gone With The Wind; 5)Lawrence of
Arabia; 6)The Wizard of Oz; 7)The Graduate; 8)On The Waterfront;
9)Schindler's List; 10)Singing In The Rain.
One of my picks for contention of the greatest film, was "The Ten
Commandments" -1956; this film was not only not included in the TOP
10, it failed to even make the TOP 100! You can imagine how irked I was; however,
I did receive some consolation when I later read a pooh-poohing
letter of the list from a likewise irked NYC gentleman in USA Today newspaper. - AH
... but overall the AFI list is dead-on. IMHO, neither of Cicil B. DeMille's "The Ten Commandments" (silent '23 or sound '56) is deserving of a slot on the top 10, but then again, I'm no fan of pompous religious films which Hollywoodize history or mythology through saccharin preachiness and spectacle. Perhaps the silent version of "The Ten Commandments" deserves recognition as a passionate undertaking at great expense (i.e., in 1920's dollars) and certainly DeMille's lost city should be preserved and restored (see link), but the hammy performance of Charltan Heston in the 1956 version combined with some of the stagey sets (i.e., painted backdrops) and dialogue hasn't aged well from my perspective. His best acting was achieved in the hands of Orson Welles in "Touch of Evil" made around the same time. Although believing Heston as a Mexican detective is somewhat a stretch, his understated acting was also stretched by the role and deserving of praise.AuPh
#7 "The Graduate" don't deserve that ranking, as with "American
Graffitti" and "Pulp Fiction". Sorry we don't agree on "TTC"
1956. Imagine how VK feels about "Schindler's List" at #9.
Regarding Heston's underacting in "Touch Of Evil"; a perfect counter-
point to Orson's melodramatically overstated role, yeah, Big Boy
we got the black/white, good/evil dichotomy point from the getgo, hammer down through the your heavy handed direction!
Overall, a good, if not great film, though. Enjoyed the declining
genius' puton at the Magic Castle too. - AH
Hi,
Great to who? For whom, and for what purpose? The Muppet Movie was utterly what I needed the day I saw it. There are certainly other movies I love; I have seen the Blues Brothers about a hundred times.
Contact is my pick for best scifi, Lawrence of Arabia for best epic,
My Fair Lady is the only musiscal I have picked up on dvd. I really should see Kane again, my tastes have changed a bit over the years, I might actually like it. But the question as to what is the "greatest" is bootless. A 5 year old wouldn't care for Kane, someone who wasn't around in 1979 and in need of cheering up; might not hold The Muppet Movie in high regard. Ask me if i care, if you think about it; you might come to think that you are stuck in this place and time....the values you hold were not quite the same in earlier times, and they will certainly change in the future. I would be more interested in what makes you laugh, or cry, or fills you with a sense of wonder or admiration....
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nt
nt
Citzen Kane and Wild Women of Wonga (I'll let you work out the greatest and the lousiest!)
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