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In Reply to: RE: "Bladerunner 2049" HD is now on Comcast pay-per-view, if anyone is interested. nt posted by free.ranger on January 27, 2018 at 16:13:36
Having viewed this movie a few times by now I have some thoughts.
Like: If 'Androids Might Dream of Electric Sheep', Replicants, in 2049, have electric girl friends.
Like Bladerunner before it, Bladerunner 2049 continues to present the largest corporations as evil entities.
Unlike Bladerunner, Bladerunner 2049 shows sympathy for replicants while putting on display no small amount of the human bigotry against them. A wierd fantasy.
If there were a third movie, would we viewers (all human btw) be rooting for the replicants to eradicate all human life on Earth? It seems it might go that way based on this movie.
All the above said, I liked this movie.
-Steve
Follow Ups:
...Decker is a replicant?
...if Deckard is human why do they want him?Makes little sense this way.
Edits: 02/02/18
"In Philip K Dick's story Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, Rick is not a replicant - he passes the Voigt-Kampff test and has a wife. The film version made some changes."
Above quote from the linked article. So....this means that any suggestion of Deckard being a replicant comes from Ridley Scott, not the author of the novel.
That said, Scott did have some face time with the author before he died.
-Steve
...in interviews I've read, Ridley Scott said Deckerd was a replicant and Harrison Ford disagreed saying he was human.
That keeps the controversy alive.
But I'm assuming Scott knows and Ford is talking about his acting.
'Cause Deckard sure as hell does.
Ever seen an "old" replicant?
And he's an "old" model.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...from the article I linked:
"Evidence that new model replicants can age comes from Hiam Abbass's Freysa, the leader of the replicant resistance. A 30-year-old photo of her with Rachael's baby shows that Freysa has visibly aged. Replicant Sapper Morton (Dave Bautista) also wear glasses, indicating a deterioration likely to have come with age (there'd be no reason to add a sight defect to a replicant).
Deckard is also able to be beaten up by Luv, but Luv is a newer model and younger - if replicants age and deteriorate, this isn't a indication that he's definitely human.
Of course, this does not mean Deckard is a replicant. It just means he could be."
nn
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...on each side.
In the final version of Blade runner-The Final Cut.
Ridley Scott added a scene that was not in the original. It changed things quite a bit. He had the dream about a unicorn that Replicants have. Gaff (Edward James Olmos)knew about it and did an origami unicorn.
Jack
PS. If you haven't seen "The Final Cut", do so. IMO, it's the best version made
I thought Blade Runner 2049 was excellent and the fact we're asking questions "was Deckard a replicant?" is one of the reasons I liked it.
While I'm here - has anyone seen Blade Runner 2049 director Denis Villeneuve's 'Enemy' with Jake Gyllenhaal?
It was a film I watched twice, then I Googled opinion to ascertain what the symbolism represented etc. But don't be scared away, it was a nail-biter too.
IMDB
"...Adam Bell (Gyllenhaal) is a glum, disheveled history professor, who seems disinterested even in his beautiful girlfriend, Mary (Laurent). Watching a movie on the recommendation of a colleague, Adam spots his double, a bit-part actor named Anthony Clair, and decides to track him down..."
With Rachel being the mother?
...it was hinted at but I don't recall outright statement thus leaving room for doubt. Didn't see directors cut of original so no "insight" from that.
...my take is that if he was human, any human could do it.
But if he was a replicant, they would be able to make others like him to breed.
"...my take is that if he was human, any human could do it."
Not necessarily. What if his genome contained a mutation that allowed replicant fertility? Not "any human could do it".
Ultimately, this aspect of the movie is quite intentionally a Rorschach ink blot: you can read anything into it you want. And as we saw at the end of 2049, it sets up interest in another sequel.
Not sure. I caught the suggestion but it did not seem like solid evidence. He's human. I'm pretty sure. Almost. Nah. Couldn't be.
-Steve
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