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I wandered into my local BB store yesterday and they had just finished setting up the Sony Blu-ray player hooked to a Sony 40" 1080p LCD HDTV. The Blu-ray demo disc was very impressive.But, I asked the salesman to pop in a standard definition DVD to see how well the Sony upscales and it was terrible, very grainy. The movie was "Italian Job".
The salesman just put the disk in and hit play, he did not go to a menu and pick any specific resolution or other options. In his defense the player was brand new to him and he didn't know if there was a way to improve the PQ via settings or options.
So, hopefully you can get better PQ on standard DVDs with the Sony, but based I what I saw I would not buy it. I have also seen a demo of the Toshiba HD-DVD A1 player on a standard DVD and it looked great.
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Others have commented saying basically the same thing. The Panny blu-ray has been reported as having the Chroma bug when upscaling DVDs. I don't know if these are flukes or not. Frankly, I'm a bit surprised at these problems. I can understand having problems with a new media, but upscaling DVDs should be a no-brainer.
Jack
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Sort of reminds of when SACD players were first released. It was almost as if they purposely made redbook pcm cds sound bad so you would notice how much better (relatively speaking) SACD was.Is the same thing true with real 1080p vs upscaled? I would like to think that there is a way to adjust the settings for standard DVDs to get the best PQ.
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> > > Is the same thing true with real 1080p vs upscaled? I would like to think that there is a way to adjust the settings for standard DVDs to get the best PQ < < <
You can't adjust the settings, but I would think that the Pioneer will do upscaling well. The first Generation HD DVDs upscale DVDs very well, so it can be done without too much problem-hell, mine has replaced my Oppo. I'm not sure why the Blu-ray folks are having such a problem.
Jack
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Jack, I went to a Magnolia BB today and asked the salesman to put a standard DVD in the Pioneer Elite Blu-ray player and it was not as bad as the Sony but still lousy. Standard DVDs on inexpensive upscaling DVD players and the Toshiba HD-DVD A1 look really good. I don't know what to make of these Blu-ray players.
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that I've just audition today. The regular DVD movie was being upscale to 720p using the component connection to the 42" Panny plasma. Great picture with excellent contrast of course the Blu-Ray disc was better still.
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> > > The regular DVD movie was being upscale to 720p using the component connection to the 42" Panny plasma. < < <
You may wish to check up on that. As I unredatnd it, upscaling over component is strictly forbidden. Only a few Chinese brands (ie. Neuneo) will do that, ones by major electronics companies will not.
Jack
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Upscaling over component cable is only blocked by using the Image Constraint Token, which is controlled by the software (disk) fed to the machine. The studios are probably not enabling this right now... possibly to prevent confusion at this early stage of the format's release.
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I was the one who adjusted the Samsung BD-P1000 Blu-Ray player’s menu to upscaled the normal Van Helsing’s DVD movie to display in 720p. I also knew that they were using the Component’s cabling to demoe’d the (2) 42” & (1) 50” plasma HDTV namely Samsung, Panasonic and LG respectively and were fully capable of displaying the full 1080p Samsung’s player resolution when playing the Blu-Ray movie in HDMI connection.
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Jack G is correct. The player won't upscale DVD to 720p over component unless the DVD has no copy protection.
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Plenty at AVS Forum:
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