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In Reply to: Re: DLP Projectors and 4:3 stretch on 16:9 posted by Rich on March 07, 1999 at 07:52:14:
It's going to take me another year of saving just to be able to make the $8000 or so I'd need for the Dream Vision, screen, long s-video cable, taxes, etc.
I went shopping with $3000 with the possibility of extending that to $4000. When I saw the Pioneer Pro 200's picture, I almost bought it on site, until I learned it was $7500 plus tax. It made the DLP projector seem like a bargain.
The convenience, ease of setup (plug and play basically) and increased light output, and lower overall price are very important factors for me. I realize that I will be far from a great setup but will have a very good one instead. The demo I saw was great, and I know for certain that I no longer want a rear projection tv. I can't imagine that 65 inches looks small to me now.
But I plan to audition some CRT's (and LCDs) this coming year, and to search the archives and Deja News to gather more information about front projectors. I had always skipped over these posts in the past.
But what's more important is that my wife just LOVED the large size screening, and is excited about this purchase. She already helped decorate and smooth the sound of our music room with wall hangings, plants and drapes (curtains). The music room is indeed spaceous, handsome and relaxing She even said that she would help pay for our new home theater (she earns more than I do). I feel blessed to have this kind of support for my hobby (addiction).
I saw a DLP set a few days ago. Forgot the brand but was advertised for $6k. The picture was bright, but it was not calibrated properly so I believe it was overdriven. They fiddled with the red color. Interesting that Zorrow was showing with that as well.
A couple of points for you to look at with the DLP and Zorro the next time you are in. At the beginning of the movie when the firing squad is out. Look at the white diagonal straps on them. You will notice ragged edges; I did. Very bad. Then advance to where they are in the cave with thepractice circles. Notice how the shape of the circles change from being circle to anything but. I sure noticed it. I would not spend such amounts for such bad artifacts. Came home and looked at my setup, 100"wide screen, line doubled, no such artifacts. I would not buy such a large screen setup without a line doubling capability. As was mentioned, HDTV is coming and a doubler is a must, even for the progressive scan 480P DVD.
Mtry, I printed out your response and will take it with me the next time I go in for another demo. My initial visit was not done with any critical viewing--just took in the whole enchilada and was imnpressed.
I auditioned a $10,000 somy crt the other day and was not very impressed with the dvd picture--not as sharp as the dlp viewing. I then learned that there was no line doubler attached, so it seems that a t least a doubler is required with a crt projector. One has to draw a price spending limit at some point. There's always beatter out there. I hope to reaudition the dlp within the week and I'll report back.
I believe that when you are doing such a large projection, a line doubler is a must for a good picture. You are increasing the picture size but not the number of scanning lines, something has to give.
I must be dreaming. Did you say you got some new silver wires for that puppy...and you saw a difference? I never said you couldn't see.
Now...what would you say if I told you that you could make a RP look like a
standard CRT by changing the contrast and brightness settings? Well....when "someone" says that you can make a SS amp sound like a tube amp using the tone controls...it's the same thing. So is saying everything sounds the same. No flame, just had to get a grip on reality here as to hear you say something so profoundly correct...is kinda weird.
By the way, what are you using to light up the 100 in screen?
John^^
You know I don't like to brag or list my components, sorry But it starts with an R. I couldn"t resist mentioning the screen size.
Mtry, Sounds like the R stands for Runco, one of the best. The least expensive Runco crt with line doubler that I could find information on is the model DTV-852 for $15000. Sounds like a great system, but is this the price I would have to pay (not counting screen et al) to get the quality, artifact free, hdtv ready performance you are comparing to the $6000 Dream Vision dlp projector?
I got a bargain from a friend in Atlanta. Screen is extra, of course. I guess it will all depend on cost and what you want to compromise on as any purchasing decision. Unfortunately, even with my setup, I have stretched the screen size/throw distance and it decreased the lumens but I wanted a 'large' picture.
Send me an email.
Nothing wrong with telling people what you own. Let's people know where you are coming from....
John^^
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