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I have narrowed down to the the Onkyo, the Yamaha, and the Mitsubishi.
Reason I asked about DTS was for the DV-8. All the 3 seem to have there strong points. The DV-8's being sound.
Onkyo, Best all around, perhaps a bit bright ?
Yamaha, alot of bells and whistles, wouldnt mind the extra dsp modes
Mitsuibishi, more musical sound of the 3, no DTS though : (any comments on which unit might stand out for the 3 ?
I do need pre outs... does anyone knwo for asure if the Yamaha and DV-8 have pre outs ?
Ray
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Rayman,
Glad to hear you are making headway. You have done some homework. All three of these models are low end overseas manufactured receivers and are all have their sound weaknesses. I agree with you that the Onkyo is a bit bright. Bright highend and big decisive bass are the positives with HT and are negatives with music. Warm midrange and smooth highs make for boring HT but nice music reproduction. Onkyo leans toward HT reproduction. You have to pay a lot more than you are willing to get a receiver that will do both well. I think you will have to pay around $100 more for the Yamaha and not have as good of HT processing chips over the Onkyo. As far as DSP modes, playing with those will last about 2 weeks and you will decide all but 2 or 3 are garbage just like everyone else. If the difference in sound is worth it go for Yamaha.
I would avoid Ubid for a receiver like the plague. It is O.K. for something like speakers that have a low failure rate. Way to much repaired B stock out there to trust Ubid on their receiver stock. Just go to pricescan.com and get the lowest price from an authorized online dealer. (Check Onkyo or Yamaha web site) Then call around town to local authorized dealers and this time of year someone will match it.As with all decisions that involve sound it becomes quite subjective. You know enough now to make your own decision. You just have to make the move.
NT
Everybody loves Rayman!!!Let us know what you think of those 3,if you audition them? I bought my Yamaha after looking at audioreview.com and did'nt know of this site.Don't get me wrong,I love the Yamaha,but would have liked to have had the additional input.Gordy
I used to own the Nak AV-8 and loved it. I moved up to seperates otherwise I would still have it.If DTS isn't important, you can't go wrong with the going price. And considering the next "big" thing is DVD-A, SACD or DD7.1, upgradability isn't that important with whatever receiver you pick in that price range. In a couple years, they will all be outdated. So get something that sounds good NOW, but isn't too expensive to replace later.
That was my reason for buying the Nakamichi AV-8 last year, and ended up just doing that. I sold it and bought the B&K Ref 30 preamp.
Robert
....Whats a fair price these days, i just seen a lot at ubid go for $329
Ray
That's a good price. And yes, it has all 6 channel preouts. I used it as a preamp to a 5-channel amp before I bought my new preamp.Robert
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