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Hateful Eight

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Posted on February 6, 2017 at 11:24:27
user510
 Saw it last night after Super Bowl LI on one of those free premium channels. (see post about The Revenant -- Feb 5, 2017)

You can always spot a Tarrantino film by its dialog. Real simple and with a slow, deliberate delivery. At one point Kurt Russel utters a command to another...and it sounds as if it were uttered by the late John Wayne. 'That' kind of delivery.

You can always spot a Tarrantino film by its plot. It tells part of the story, then backs up to 'just before' to fill you in on what it didn't tell you before. The plot line is always simple and reveals everything by the end of the film. There will be nothing left to guess or ponder about....except, perhaps ..... why!

You can always spot a Tarrantino film by its graphic blood and gore. It is crass. It is over the top. Tarrantino celebrates in, among many other obscenities, that which is repulsive. For instance, when one character vomits blood onto the face of the individual beneath. Then the camera gets a close-up detail shot of that face with the vomit all over it. Should we the viewers laugh or puke. I did neither, but it did make me gasp! A real attention getter, that scene.

I should say that Samuel Jackson seems a natural for his role in this improbable film. The entire cast was good but Jackson is a natural for a Tarrantino movie.

For some reason I am reminded of one or another Sergio Leone spaghetti western. With a Leone film there is a definite specific stylistic sense to it. So too with Tarrantino. I just hope I haven't insulted the memory of Sergio Leone by making this comparison. (;-)

-Steve

 

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RE: Hateful Eight, posted on February 8, 2017 at 13:39:07
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 yes, definitely a QT film. I thought it was good.


 

Tried to watch it twice and fell asleep..., posted on February 6, 2017 at 20:30:01
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 easily his worst, most boring and least inspired film.

I'm a fan of his movies too. AND westerns.

He'd have to MAJORLY fuck up to make his (supposedly) 9th and last film any worse.

"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

Did you see it in a theater? , posted on February 7, 2017 at 11:03:04
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 ...personally I don't fall asleep watching films at home, but sometimes I do check out if I get bored.

That's why I try to see the majors ones in the theater where they were meant to be seen.

In the theater I found this one fascinating, if uneven like a lot of his stuff.

 

Tarrantino is in love with his voice, hence his films . . ., posted on February 10, 2017 at 08:52:37
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 are far too wordy as a result of him thinking he's clever. This is his greatest fault: being overly clever just like Chris Nolan.

 

His cleverness served him VERY well with PF and KB2..., posted on February 12, 2017 at 21:07:06
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 But it's been a steady decline since with not enough story ligament to meld his various great scenes into
a whole, tasty enchilada. Jackie Brown being the most obvious exclusion and his most cohesive film, it
being a "tribute" and all.

He's NOT a film maker I'll miss when he's gone, nor a guest on any talk show, et al.

He's very much remained an obnoxious puer aeternus sort and that's seeped too far into his films.


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No, seeing it in a theater... , posted on February 7, 2017 at 21:18:16
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 wouldn't have improved the vapid, stilted dialog OR wooden overacting.

The sound system in a theatre might (just might) have kept me awake with the door slamming/nailing, wind whooshing and stagecoach ruckus et al.

There was likely loud gun fire at some point too, but never will make it far enough to find out.


"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

We caught it on HBO, watched about 1 hour, turned it off, posted on February 8, 2017 at 06:21:50
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 Finally finished it the other night. Barely OK, just above Death Proof Car. As opposed to any number of Tarantino movies, we have no desire to see it again. A twist of sorts at the end? Story told out of chronological order? Hours of typical Tarantino dialogue? Lots of people getting shot? Duhhhhh. I did like Jennifer Jason Leigh's character. She was one crusty ol gal.
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Nominated for Best Supporting Actress Oscar...(nt), posted on February 8, 2017 at 15:13:48
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 (nt)

 

RE: Hateful Eight, posted on February 6, 2017 at 19:18:40
mkuller
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 ...nice to see you catching up on 2015 films.

This and the Revenant were a couple of the less pleasant but more memorable films of that year.

 

RE: memorable is one way to regard them, posted on February 7, 2017 at 13:03:27
user510
 Both The Revenant and Hateful Eight are indeed memorable. However I'd say the Revenant is the more intelligent between the two.

Between the two directors of these films I'd say that Inarritu produces the more thoughtful movie, while Tarrentino endeavors to be bombastic, crass and in our faces.

-Steve


 

RE: memorable is one way to regard them, posted on February 7, 2017 at 15:07:10
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 ...I enjoyed Hateful and was entertained but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless they are a real Tarantino fan.

 

RE: memorable is one way to regard them, posted on February 8, 2017 at 12:57:06
user510
 That movie, along with his others, definitely has a style. Some might call this 'art'. I won't say anything if somebody does call his movies 'art'. Like Pulp Fiction, like the first Kill Bill movie, there is a comic book sense to it.

I couldn't stomach Death Proof, even though I watched it through....once. I will not revisit that one. Just too dark.

From Dusk 'til Dawn. I liked parts of that movie. Especially that little dance Salma Hayek was doing that moment prior to her turning into a demon. Hell of a scene.

All in all, Tarantino continues to fund his movies. Therefore he does have a bankable box office audience. And we movie goers talk about the movies whether we enjoy them or not.
-Steve

 

RE: memorable is one way to regard them, posted on February 8, 2017 at 15:29:05
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 ...my favorites of his:

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Kill Bill 2
3. Django Unchained
4. Inglorious Bastards

The rest.

He says he is going to make 2 more films and then retire.

 

I believe he peaked with "Reservoir Dogs"..., posted on February 18, 2017 at 10:13:38
Ladok
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 ...in which he said all he really has to say, including the homosexual violence theme. I did notice a fixation with nasty stuff being thrown in people's faces and hair in this last film, which I guess is new for him.

 

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