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In Reply to: I disagree... matrix is already influential posted by darkstar on October 29, 2002 at 14:47:43:
Special effects should serve the story and the characterisation. It's the "idea" behind the effect that's interesting to me, withoutone, it's just so much visual wanking...a sad sign of the times that style and image is all.Geez - people see and collect movies for the effects. ARGH.
No ideas + no development = no movie, no matter how good the CGI.
(Thank God for Peter Jackson.)
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - 20 Most Influential SF Movies Of All Time (In Order). - AudioHead 07:40:53 10/28/02 (102)
- would add "Videodrome" <nt> - Mart 23:49:47 11/02/02 (0)
- These 50's SF movies are expensive!! - cfraser 18:19:29 11/02/02 (1)
- What Do You Consider Expensive Vs What Is...... - AudioHead 14:02:35 11/04/02 (0)
- Tron, it must be influencial, it has its own website :o) - Mrs. Piggy 16:00:09 10/31/02 (0)
- Does anyone think Gattica will be influential.... - Mrs. Piggy 14:08:06 10/30/02 (4)
- Re: Does anyone think Gattica will be influential.... - Jabberwock 14:19:36 10/30/02 (3)
- Re: Does anyone think Gattica will be influential.... - sam 19:06:42 12/16/02 (0)
- Speaking of Andrew Niccol..... - michael w 03:16:20 10/31/02 (1)
- Yes indeedy...come and gone. - Harmonia 00:15:41 11/01/02 (0)
- Seems to me most people are confusing influential with their favorite <nt> - cfraser 18:19:37 10/29/02 (4)
- Yup! nt - Harmonia 23:20:35 10/29/02 (3)
- It's nice to see so many people here enjoy these movies - cfraser 09:51:39 10/30/02 (2)
- Good point, and I made an assumption... - Harmonia 11:01:18 10/30/02 (1)
- I will have to get Metropolis...last time I saw it was in 1970 <nt> - cfraser 13:05:10 10/30/02 (0)
- What about Solaris, Them!, On the Beach, Island of Lost Souls, Altered States (nt) - sjb 17:52:16 10/29/02 (1)
- What about them? - Harmonia 23:14:53 10/29/02 (0)
- I just gotta disagree! - Harmonia 16:32:37 10/29/02 (1)
- Gotta agree with you there, Harmonia - gware 18:06:04 10/29/02 (0)
- What, no dinosaurs? - Ted in NJ 11:29:18 10/29/02 (4)
- And what about superheroes? - Ted in NJ 11:33:14 10/29/02 (3)
- Wonder Twin Powers Activate! - Bolt Snypr 14:48:20 10/29/02 (2)
- Form of an eagle.... - Mrs. Piggy 18:19:20 10/29/02 (1)
- Re: Form of an eagle.... - Bolt Snypr 14:15:36 10/30/02 (0)
- And a very interesting one, even if not so influential - orejones 10:22:08 10/29/02 (0)
- Hiddden Frotress - The Killer Piglet 08:44:41 10/29/02 (0)
- Re: 20 Most Influential SF Movies Of All Time (In Order). - JDK 20:15:16 10/28/02 (0)
- Re: 20 Most Influential SF Movies Of All Time (In Order). - njjohn 20:09:30 10/28/02 (0)
- I would add Brazil... - Mrs. Piggy 17:44:18 10/28/02 (58)
- I love Brazil... - Harmonia 16:49:05 10/29/02 (27)
- I think.... - Mrs. Piggy 18:15:38 10/29/02 (26)
- Doubtful... - Jabberwock 20:15:19 10/29/02 (24)
- Do you mean socialism in a nut shell.... - Mrs. Piggy 08:35:43 10/30/02 (23)
- No... - Jabberwock 09:43:09 10/30/02 (22)
- Good God, Man! - mvwine 08:03:48 10/31/02 (16)
- "I gave at the office! " - Jabberwock 19:27:13 10/31/02 (15)
- So you really LIKE capitalism!! - mvwine 06:26:12 11/01/02 (14)
- Re: So you really LIKE capitalism!! - Jabberwock 11:54:18 11/01/02 (13)
- Why don't you tell us a better system.... - Mrs. Piggy 12:28:31 11/01/02 (4)
- A pig that teaches... - Jabberwock 16:51:18 11/01/02 (3)
- Access to material goods IS a measure of quality of life... - Mrs. Piggy 17:00:00 11/01/02 (2)
- Re: Access to material goods IS a measure of quality of life... - Jabberwock 17:04:36 11/01/02 (1)
- No one says it is.... - Mrs. Piggy 17:15:23 11/01/02 (0)
- I really have misjudged you! - mvwine 12:14:08 11/01/02 (7)
- Don't be too hard on the guy.... - Mrs. Piggy 12:40:06 11/01/02 (6)
- Even worse... - Jabberwock 15:48:12 11/01/02 (5)
- A professor wouldn't say - Mrs. Piggy 16:48:27 11/01/02 (4)
- Re: A professor wouldn't say - Jabberwock 17:45:17 11/01/02 (0)
- And about the jailkeeper comment.... - Mrs. Piggy 16:53:01 11/01/02 (2)
- Re: And about the jailkeeper comment.... - Jabberwock 17:37:21 11/01/02 (1)
- Everyone knows schools were not designed... - Mrs. Piggy 18:20:32 11/01/02 (1)
- I don't have a clue as to what you are referring to.... - Mrs. Piggy 13:27:51 10/30/02 (4)
- Re: I don't have a clue as to what you are referring to.... - Jabberwock 14:09:01 10/30/02 (3)
- That doesn't make sense.... - Mrs. Piggy 14:15:55 10/30/02 (2)
- Re: That doesn't make sense.... - Jabberwock 14:29:50 10/30/02 (1)
- We are not oppressed.... - Mrs. Piggy 17:26:14 10/30/02 (0)
- Re: I think.... - darkstar 18:32:29 10/29/02 (0)
- 1984 is highly underrated... - mishmashmusic 11:37:34 10/29/02 (0)
- Are Brazil and 1984 influential or just important? - Jabberwock 06:49:52 10/29/02 (8)
- Both :o)-nt - Mrs. Piggy 07:12:49 10/29/02 (2)
- How so? <nt> - Jabberwock 19:41:44 10/29/02 (1)
- See this post.... - Mrs. Piggy 20:04:21 10/29/02 (0)
- PS: If importance is the criteria, add 12 Monkeys. <nt> - Stephen Hayes 06:52:14 10/29/02 (4)
- Oops. - Jabberwock 20:02:56 10/29/02 (2)
- Nice to meet ya Stephen :o)-nt - Mrs. Piggy 20:06:32 10/29/02 (1)
- Back at ya, Ms. Piggy :-) - Jabberwock 20:08:56 10/29/02 (0)
- Another excellent cautionary tale; it's an underappreciated SF classic. (nt) - Audiophilander 08:45:56 10/29/02 (0)
- Agreed, Brazil probably should be on the list; it certainly has strong SF elements. - Audiophilander 23:44:06 10/28/02 (0)
- I would also like to add that the Matrix will probably be very... - Mrs. Piggy 17:47:56 10/28/02 (18)
- I disagree... matrix is already influential - darkstar 14:47:43 10/29/02 (4)
- Re: I disagree... matrix is already influential - Jabberwock 20:03:59 10/29/02 (2)
- Anyone see Basket Case.... - Mrs. Piggy 20:08:06 10/29/02 (1)
- Both Basket Case and Basket Case 2. <Nt> - AudioHead 09:45:01 10/31/02 (0)
- FX R not Enuff. - Harmonia 16:43:09 10/29/02 (0)
- The effects are not original though..... - dado5 10:52:42 10/29/02 (0)
- sorry terminator...matrix is 'real'. - njjohn 19:51:41 10/28/02 (0)
- Re: I would also like to add that the Matrix will probably be very... - Victor Khomenko 18:57:49 10/28/02 (10)
- The acting was pretty bad... - Mrs. Piggy 19:11:28 10/28/02 (9)
- acting had to be bad ... - Mart 23:27:01 11/02/02 (0)
- A Walk in the Clouds is Keanu's best by far..nt.. - late 19:26:49 10/28/02 (7)
- No, No, No it was his..... - dado5 12:02:53 10/30/02 (0)
- Oh, Lordy.. - padreken 13:13:02 10/29/02 (1)
- LOL that would be cringe material!-nt - Mrs. Piggy 13:49:35 10/29/02 (0)
- He should've stopped at "Bill & Ted's" - mishmashmusic 09:59:42 10/29/02 (1)
- He went to the Mickey Mouse & William Shatner school of - Mrs. Piggy 12:55:53 10/29/02 (0)
- Hey, did you notice how I spelled his name.... - Mrs. Piggy 19:30:38 10/28/02 (0)
- No way!!!! - Mrs. Piggy 19:29:18 10/28/02 (0)
- Hey, is this just your opinion?.... - Mrs. Piggy 17:38:12 10/28/02 (0)
- Re: 20 Most Influential SF Movies Of All Time (In Order). - Pjay 16:28:19 10/28/02 (0)
- "Max" and "Clockwork" Science Fiction?? -- nt - rufus 15:05:23 10/28/02 (3)
- I would definately consider them to be.... - Mrs. Piggy 17:43:25 10/28/02 (2)
- He-he... - Victor Khomenko 19:01:48 10/28/02 (1)
- Consider Bunuel's Brilliant "El Ãngel exterminador" - Victor Khomenko 19:08:56 10/28/02 (0)
- That's 1926 for Metropolis, ... - Audiophilander 14:31:46 10/28/02 (9)
- I just watched it again over the weekend, - mishmashmusic 10:04:41 10/29/02 (0)
- Agreed On 1926 Metropolis and...... - AudioHead 08:09:05 10/29/02 (2)
- I tried to track down that review with the AA search engine, but had no luck. - Audiophilander 08:42:55 10/29/02 (1)
- I Tried The Search Engine Also With No Luck, However.... - AudioHead 15:01:01 10/30/02 (0)
- Sci-fi overlap with other genres - Lasermeister 15:39:06 10/28/02 (4)
- Sci-Fi Writer Harlan Ellison Strongly Prefers The Term.... - AudioHead 09:36:51 10/31/02 (0)
- Technologies must fit the circumstance.... - Mrs. Piggy 19:27:31 10/28/02 (2)
- Re: Technologies must fit the circumstance.... - Lasermeister 17:36:32 10/29/02 (1)
- And also open to interpretation.... - Mrs. Piggy 18:31:07 10/29/02 (0)
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- FX R not Enuff. - Harmonia 16:43:09 10/29/02 (0)
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