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Re: dunno if they 'qualify' for the category.

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A film noir 'feeling' is elusive something. Bit like try to explain a 'communicative' two channel system. They are equaly vague. :-)

There are certainly familiar ingredients to make a film noir film as you've suggested in your post. A story about ugly people doing nasty things to other people. Always with strong chracter study/observation. Sometime, it can be voy
I don't think they have to be shot in black & white per se. Perhaps, my preference of B&W films over the colour films make the neo-film noir in 70s to date unauthentic. Addition of colour make the scene too real for my taste.

Most film-noir should have artificial feel to it. I can even forgive a few flaw in script sometimes from its striking visual style. No, it does not have to be shot in the night time to achieve necesarry atmosphere.

As for French film noir, Marcel Carne's Jour Se Leve(1939) or try Port of Shadows(1938) both starring Jean Gabin.


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