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In Reply to: Not the film posted by Vedric on July 31, 2004 at 01:23:40:
Hi Vedric,not sure I understand the exact intent of your post, but I would say that, sometimes (certainly not always), style and substance go hand in hand. I find Bush's public speaking (and any other type of speaking I've heard of him), even when reading, lacking in both--simplistic in content, perception, and linguistic ability. But this is just MY opinion, and a large proportion of people will certainly disagree with me.
Cetaele (aka Bob)
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Michael Moore´s " Fahrenheit 9 / 11---------- - patrickU 13:26:09 07/29/04 (111)
- The Best Description = - DevilDawgMom 18:24:43 08/06/04 (0)
- Just one question, Patrick: had Billy Wilder made a film using the same stuff Mr. Moore did as prime matter... - orejones 04:55:38 07/31/04 (1)
- Re: Just one question, Patrick: had Billy Wilder made a film using the same stuff Mr. Moore did as prime matter... - patrickU 05:08:22 07/31/04 (0)
- one point.... - Cetaele 22:57:06 07/30/04 (17)
- Do you ever pick your nose? - Victor Khomenko 06:28:45 07/31/04 (2)
- All primates pick their nose... - Cetaele 07:30:58 07/31/04 (1)
- Fair enough - Victor Khomenko 07:42:27 07/31/04 (0)
- Very good points, Bob. And well stated, too. (nt) - orejones 02:39:14 07/31/04 (0)
- Style over substance. - Vedric 00:55:05 07/31/04 (5)
- It was a clear, well-written post, going straight to the bone. Could it go any deeper? - orejones 02:30:08 07/31/04 (0)
- Re: What style? - patrickU 00:57:22 07/31/04 (3)
- Not the film - Vedric 01:23:40 07/31/04 (2)
- not mutually exclusive - Cetaele 07:41:27 07/31/04 (0)
- Re: No technically badly cut also. Look at David lean for good cutting, as an example. nt - patrickU 04:02:21 07/31/04 (0)
- Re: one point.... - patrickU 00:45:47 07/31/04 (6)
- alpha... - Cetaele 07:36:21 07/31/04 (1)
- Re: alpha... - patrickU 12:56:58 07/31/04 (0)
- Sorry Patrick, but Mr. Bush has no more shades than those you can project on him. - orejones 02:37:07 07/31/04 (3)
- Re: Don´t tell me you did find this film to be a good one... - patrickU 04:06:28 07/31/04 (2)
- No, I haven´t seen the film yet: that´s why I am not talking about it... - orejones 04:41:15 07/31/04 (1)
- Re: That is what I tought.... - patrickU 04:50:18 07/31/04 (0)
- Many thanks for your poignant and sincere summary - rnhood 19:35:25 07/30/04 (1)
- Re: At least someone.... - patrickU 00:55:45 07/31/04 (0)
- Indeed - Vedric 18:24:53 07/30/04 (2)
- I can call the Fox news the same thing... - Eldragon 18:27:26 07/30/04 (1)
- nonsense - Vedric 21:24:17 07/30/04 (0)
- So what is it there to like about Bush? - Eldragon 18:07:23 07/30/04 (5)
- He is loyal to his "base". "The mores and have mores". - edta 19:18:34 08/16/04 (0)
- Re: So what is it there to like about Bush? - patrickU 01:02:38 07/31/04 (3)
- )50%! We'll see about that In NOVEMBER! nt - eldragon 03:24:24 07/31/04 (2)
- Re: If you think that Mr. Kerry.... - patrickU 04:09:11 07/31/04 (1)
- First impression is always right one: Dullard! nt - Eldragon 14:37:04 07/31/04 (0)
- Some people like it. - Ears 13:08:44 07/30/04 (1)
- Re: Some people like it. Hot. - patrickU 13:15:25 07/30/04 (0)
- Michael Moore is the same as Rush Limbaugh... - mkuller 09:46:41 07/30/04 (1)
- Are you saying that Michael Moore is a Vicodin addict? - Audiophilander 11:29:49 07/30/04 (0)
- See "The Corporation" three times as good and much more relevant to 9/11 and the Iraq mess. nt. - Rich S. 08:42:52 07/30/04 (2)
- Re: Well thank you, but.... - patrickU 09:23:36 07/30/04 (1)
- Re: Well thank you, but.... - Rich S. 09:28:18 07/30/04 (0)
- Re: Michael Moore´s " Fahrenheit 9 / 11---------- - Gee LP 05:22:44 07/30/04 (1)
- Re: Lord of the....Haha! Yes that would be horror! But Audiophilander... - patrickU 06:57:15 07/30/04 (0)
- Re: Michael Moore´s " Fahrenheit 9 / 11---------- - PdL 20:55:59 07/29/04 (1)
- Re: Michael Moore´s " Fahrenheit 9 / 11---------- - patrickU 03:19:16 07/30/04 (0)
- And coming from a Frenchman, I'm impressed! - Chris Garrett 20:12:06 07/29/04 (1)
- Re: No reason to be.... - patrickU 01:40:33 07/30/04 (1)
- I'm sending you 50 absentee ballots! n - albee33 18:01:02 07/29/04 (4)
- I'm sending your post & patrick's follow-up to the FBI. (nt) - Audiophilander 00:38:53 07/30/04 (2)
- Hippie snitch. .n - albee33 10:59:07 07/31/04 (1)
- Busted! :o) - Audiophilander 09:14:50 08/01/04 (0)
- Re: How much? nt - patrickU 23:53:51 07/29/04 (0)
- Re: Michael Moore´s " Fahrenheit 9 / 11---------- - Bolt_Snypr 17:58:26 07/29/04 (0)
- It kinda figures ... - Audiophilander 14:44:52 07/29/04 (26)
- Your imbecillic personal attacks are disgusting - Victor Khomenko 14:58:47 07/29/04 (24)
- The parrot remark wasn't intended as a personal attack, but I'm sorry if I ruffled patrick's feathers. - Audiophilander 00:17:39 07/30/04 (0)
- Re: For me BORING..... - patrickU 15:00:14 07/29/04 (22)
- I agree - Victor Khomenko 15:19:41 07/29/04 (21)
- You "agree" to what? Have YOU seen this film or are you STILL blowing smoke? (nt) - Audiophilander 00:36:51 07/30/04 (19)
- Re: Oh man! Can´t you read?????? - patrickU 01:11:24 07/30/04 (18)
- Yes, but I read E-N-G-L-I-S-H; unfortunately my universal translator is on the fritz. - Audiophilander 11:39:06 07/30/04 (17)
- Filthy liar... as usual - Victor Khomenko 12:09:30 07/30/04 (13)
- Really? You're supporting patrick's positon (naw, I won't go there), so it's presumed that you've seen the film. - Audiophilander 13:25:11 07/30/04 (12)
- Yes, you ARE a despicable liar! - Victor Khomenko 14:47:22 07/30/04 (10)
- Would you watch it with those deSSSpicable "S's" please? You're beginning to SSSpit drool again. - Audiophilander 16:27:12 07/30/04 (9)
- Re: WAIT-----------------Not so---- - patrickU 04:21:08 07/31/04 (0)
- Now you are filthy liar - Victor Khomenko 16:38:53 07/30/04 (7)
- Have you got $8.00? Then go SEE the film. - Audiophilander 16:59:49 07/30/04 (6)
- Slimy liar - Victor Khomenko 17:06:56 07/30/04 (5)
- *YAWN* - Audiophilander 22:09:28 07/30/04 (4)
- You are small man and filthy liar - Victor Khomenko 04:56:38 07/31/04 (3)
- "I will be constantly refering to it in the future." - Oh, I hope so, I dearly hope so! - Audiophilander 05:52:50 07/31/04 (2)
- A brief summary of your filthy lies - Victor Khomenko 06:20:38 07/31/04 (1)
- Compared to your "brief summary" Michael Moore's film is 100% accurate. - Audiophilander 06:47:30 07/31/04 (0)
- Re: Have I a " Positon " ? - patrickU 13:33:03 07/30/04 (0)
- Re: Oh sorry for the salt! But... - patrickU 11:55:12 07/30/04 (2)
- Thanks for the spelling correction (Deutsch); see, I told you: E-N-G-L-I-S-H...! - Audiophilander 13:30:24 07/30/04 (1)
- Re: Thanks for the spelling correction( E-N-G-L-I-S-H); see, I told you: Deutsch...! nt - patrickU 13:35:33 07/30/04 (0)
- Re: I agree - clbeanz 18:39:44 07/29/04 (0)
- Re: Only some? - patrickU 14:55:18 07/29/04 (0)
- Re: Michael Moore´s " Fahrenheit 9 / 11---------- - Analog Scott 13:37:55 07/29/04 (28)
- Re: Michael Moore´s " Fahrenheit 9 / 11---------- - patrickU 13:43:00 07/29/04 (27)
- Wrong, it's a combination of documentary and social satire (i.e., dark comedy). - Audiophilander 14:48:53 07/29/04 (7)
- Wrong. It's pure PROPAGANDA . . . . - albee33 18:08:21 07/29/04 (5)
- What do you mean Moore could've done well under Hitler? - Audiophilander 00:34:04 07/30/04 (4)
- Re: A standing ovation ? - patrickU 03:24:52 07/30/04 (3)
- Yes, a standing ovation, AND cheers. - Audiophilander 11:51:26 07/30/04 (2)
- Re: Yes, a standing ovation, AND cheers. - patrickU 11:59:29 07/30/04 (1)
- I meant what I said; just wait, Michael Moore's "Director's cut" should have LOTS of out-take footage. - Audiophilander 16:51:30 07/30/04 (0)
- Re: Wrong, it's a combination of documentary and social satire (i.e., dark comedy). - patrickU 14:57:00 07/29/04 (0)
- Re: Michael Moore´s " Fahrenheit 9 / 11---------- - Analog Scott 14:30:29 07/29/04 (1)
- Re: Michael Moore´s " Fahrenheit 9 / 11---------- - patrickU 14:42:38 07/29/04 (0)
- What exactly did you find stupid about the movie? - JefferyK 13:44:33 07/29/04 (16)
- Re: No problem... - patrickU 13:56:44 07/29/04 (15)
- Sounds like you went in... - JefferyK 14:40:14 07/29/04 (14)
- Re: Sounds like you went in... - patrickU 14:52:36 07/29/04 (13)
- Patrick, I think you might benefit... - JefferyK 15:05:28 07/29/04 (12)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - Ears 19:36:43 07/30/04 (0)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - patrickU 15:55:01 07/29/04 (10)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - Analog Scott 12:49:19 07/30/04 (3)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - patrickU 13:09:50 07/30/04 (2)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - Analog Scott 13:31:03 07/30/04 (1)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - patrickU 13:38:09 07/30/04 (0)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - Rich S. 08:55:59 07/30/04 (5)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - patrickU 09:30:19 07/30/04 (4)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - Rich S. 09:42:46 07/30/04 (3)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - patrickU 09:46:23 07/30/04 (2)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - Rich S. 09:57:45 07/30/04 (1)
- Re: Patrick, I think you might benefit... - patrickU 11:09:03 07/30/04 (0)
- I guess in some parts of the world... - JefferyK 13:33:17 07/29/04 (3)
- Re: I guess in some parts of the world... - patrickU 13:39:06 07/29/04 (2)
- I think the word you are looking for is... - JefferyK 13:52:34 07/29/04 (1)
- Re: Again - patrickU 14:00:45 07/29/04 (0)
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- not mutually exclusive - Cetaele 07:41:27 07/31/04 (0)
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