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Re: Superb entertainment but it fails the greatness test:

Posted by jamesgarvin (A) on March 31, 2005 at 12:15:25

In Reply to: Superb entertainment but it fails the greatness test: posted by tinear on March 30, 2005 at 16:44:36:

Huh? You have difficulty divorcing the film from it's subject matter. Which is fine. But good or great films are not so based upon their subject matter, but rather how they are about the subject matter. Films, like art, are a reflection of many things. Ugly things. Beautiful things. Happy things, etc. Do you go to an art museum and rate paintings or photography based upon their content? Are photographs of poverty naturally worse than those of a Church? Is a painting of a murder (and they do exist) worse than that of a choir of angels?

You love Tombstone? Doc Holliday. Was he someone whose exploits were worthy of being dramatized? Is ruthless killing in the old west any more savory than in mid-twentieth century America? Or is that a turd that was dressed up enough for you.

Mafia families are not historically pivotal? Did I read that right? Where to begin. An entire city, Las Vegas, which is enjoyed by millions of people, and is the fastest growing city in the United States, was built and developed by the Mafia. Prohibition was largely derailed because of the Mafia moving in after prohibition and supplying illegal liquor. An entire arm of the United States Attorney General's office is devoted to the Mafia. There is no secret that the United States government conspired with the Mafia in an attempt to kill Castro shortly after he took power in Cuba. I suspect that if I lived in New York City, and had first hand knowledge of the influence the Mafia wielded in their political history, I could name more. But your statement that the Mafia was not pivotal in this countries history is misleading at best. Certainly not as pivotal as the American Revolution. But very signficant nonetheless.

You fail to mention that many people have a fascination with the Mafia. Go to a bookstore. Shelves are lined with them. I am no expert, but I have read books by Fratiano and Valachi, and the events recorded in their books are far more graphic than those within the Godfather films.

At the very least, if you are going to criticize a film for it's content, at least do so consistently.

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