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RE: Thinking of getting a Plasma TV

The blacks are still very noticeably better on the *Elite* Pioneers. Not "all" Pioneers, so should be careful there. Next years models should have the Panasonics just about as good (according to their own declaration, now that Pio is not a competitor), and the year after one would presume better...

That said, IMO/E the Elites are definitely compromised in some ways unless they are used in an ISF mode. This is very clear to me, is not often talked about except in "extreme" enthusiast forums, is easily demonstrated (you sure don't have to "squint" to see it), and there's *nothing* you can do about it until you unlock those modes, or buy a version that has them unlocked (easy/cheap to unlock). Doesn't mean you have to get it calibrated to make it look good, but you really do need to unlock them to have access to all the features and to totally disble all the fixed processing that exists in various combos in all the other modes.

Agree that current plasmas are quite bright. That's not the issue really. The problem is watching them in a bright or especially a naturally-lit room. They are usually no good for that compared to LCD. Especially since the better ones have virtually no anti-reflective glass/coatings (the glass/coatings are kept very thin), that is partly what gives them their better-looking blacks. That is why it's said plasmas are best suited for "controlled lighting" situations, which is not to necessarily mean "dark", but generally means to keep the lighting behind the display.

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