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RE: I thought it was a pretentious POS
Posted by Analog Scott on September 30, 2008 at 18:36:58:
> Are the terms 'gimmicky' and 'conventions' not mutually exclusive?>
Convention: an established technique, practice, or device (as in literature or the theater)
Gimmick: unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries. However, the special feature is typically thought to be of little relevance or use.
I can see how one could see these as mutually exclusive but I think it is fair to say this about cinematic techniques. Gimicks can be subsets of conventions. An example. I would say that the specific techniques used to give the watcher a first person perspective of the protagonist in The Diving bell and the Butterfly is a gimick in that it is a quirky and unique special feature and *I* would take it so far as to say IMO it was indeed of little relevance other than to try to tell us the film maker is really creative and unconventional. OTOH in the broader sense it is a subset of a convention of film making in which film makers understand the camera is the eye of the veiwer and they can through any number of techniques put the viewer in the shoes of the protagonist. So that is one example a gimmicky convention. And I would say this one was specifically "heavy handed, obvious, pretentious, poorly crafted and sometimes physically nausiating."
Perhaps it would not have been quite so heavy handed, obvious, pretentious and nausiating were it better crafted and not so heavily featured. It's an old theater trick for an actor to use a gimmick to help develop a character. but the idea is to eventually let go of the gimmick as it does it's job. In practical terms this could mean using a shtick as a cruch in developing a performance but as the performance develops and that actor finds the deeper truth in his or her character one uses the schtik fewer times until it is all but eliminated or used so seldom that it will never be seen as heavy handed and obvious. IMO Schnabel being an inexperienced and undiciplinded film maker lacked the skills to do this. so we are left with gimmicks in the place of artistic truth. This often happens when one jumps ship and tries a new art form.