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You need strawmen?

Posted by jamesgarvin on January 19, 2010 at 06:31:03:

"You actually believe the "Robin Hood" myths about a man who personally killed at least one cop, and whose murderous partners were utterly ruthless."

You need to do some research. But you appear to have confused what I believe with reality. I never stated or even suggested that I believed the myth, only that there was a myth, perpetrated by Dillinger's demeanor. Your response admits there was a myth, which was my point, and that Depp accurately portrayed Dillinger. What you, nor anyone else has answered, is whether, one, Dillinger acted the manner which Depp depicted, and whether Depp accurately depicted Dillinger. Did the film show Dillinger shooting at people? Yes. Did it show him robbing from banks? Yes. So what was missing? Finally, please tell me.

Do you actually believe he was a teddy bear because he didn't do the killing personally?

Where did I state he was a teddy bear? I said he was a gangster. He was not a good guy. But Dillinger, by most accounts, was a likeable guy, despite the fact that he was a criminal. You've still not answered the question as to where Depp got the performance wrong, or was otherwise historically inaccurate.

"Gandolfini's Soprano was much more true to type."

Are you crazy? Gandolofini is playing a fictional character. The character IS a stereotype. Depp was playing a real life gangster. You seem to think that Depp should have changed Dillinger to fit your notion of how and what a gangster should act like. Further, how is Gandolifini's character based on reality, as opposed to Hollywood's version of reality? You really think John Wayne accurately depicted the real life cowboys in the old west?

You claim that Dillinger should have left the bad guys. You do not know your history. BFN joined Dillinger's gang. Dillinger did not like BFN's propensity for violence, and they parted ways. That does not make Dillinger a good guy, but it means that Dillinger did not agree with BFN's methods.

Now, how about telling me specifically how Depp did not capture the REAL Dillinger? Not the Dillinger that you created in your mind. Not the Dillinger you think should be molded by Hollywood characterizations.

"The drug gangs in Mexico sponsor soccer teams and orphanages. You must love those guys."

Now you just being juvenile.