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Disney+ thru a blue ray player...?

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Posted on December 24, 2020 at 08:42:18
grantv
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 I am an extreme novice at streaming, so want to make sure before proceeding with my next step for my music/HT room.
We recently got Disney+ at home. It's great! I'm getting a new PJ today (25th year present from work), and want to be sure I can use Disney+ in this room also thru the HT system. I have an old Arcam AVR300 receiver that I would prefer not to have to replace at this time.
Here's what I'm thinking.
Stream Disney+ from my cell to this blue ray player:
HDMI out from the player (thru a switch so I can also use a cable box, but that's hopefully fine and irrelevant) to the PJ (Epson 880)
Digital out from the player to the receiver for audio.
Possible? Kinks?

 

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Spend a hundred bucks on a top of the line ROKU player, posted on January 9, 2021 at 14:30:00
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RE: Spend a hundred bucks on a top of the line ROKU player, posted on January 9, 2021 at 21:51:12
grantv
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 Can you let me know a model? I looked at them, didn't see anything that would put out HDMI and audio outputs...

 

RE: Spend a hundred bucks on a top of the line ROKU player, posted on January 12, 2021 at 20:13:58
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 I didn't have the patience to look through specs on all the Roku boxes, but I'm pretty sure they all output HDMI only.

If you need RCA audio out, you'd need an audio de-embeddeder. The de-embeddeder would take HDMI in from Roku (or other), strip (de-embed) the audio portion of the HDMI signal and pass it out via RCA, and then pass the video portion of the HDMI signal out via HDMI.

BTW, I'm pretty sure de-embedders come with other types of audio out connections too (optical, co-ax, etc.). They're not too expensive, but with the cost of the Roku, de-embedder, additional cables, it can add up.

I'd recommend the Roku Ultra. Model number 4800R.


 

RE: Spend a hundred bucks on a top of the line ROKU player, posted on January 13, 2021 at 07:06:08
grantv
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 I looked up that model just now, and have been looking into the de-embedders, thanks lots. I'm still at mudding stage, but will get this 4800R and extra unit shortly! This will be pretty much just for Disney+ for now, maybe ever, will see. Still worth it I think.

 

Get a switcher with digital audio output., posted on January 3, 2021 at 06:59:14
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 Casting from your phone may work but you will probably get better quality from a streaming device like a Roku.

 

RE: Get a switcher with digital audio output., posted on January 3, 2021 at 18:35:31
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Yeah, gonna have to look into that if Disney+ becomes a must. I'm a few weeks away from anything being completed.

 

Nice room!, posted on January 24, 2021 at 13:08:16
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 Love the room treatments. It's going to be a really setup when your done.

 

Thanks!, posted on January 24, 2021 at 19:59:12
grantv
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 I built the room as is, apart from the new PJ, around 13 years ago IIRC. Installed the beam and columns, sound insulation, dedicated wire, etc. It was a lot of fun...

 

RE: Disney+ thru a blue ray player...?, posted on December 25, 2020 at 05:42:38
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 Why not get a streaming device (e.g., Roku)?

 

Interesting, thanks!, posted on December 25, 2020 at 08:05:46
grantv
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 I had a feeling something exactly like this was possible. Did some reading... trying to avoid buying the wrong thing, and spending too much time at Best Buy. And it'd be great not to need to punch holes and run a 40' HDMI cable.
So I can buy a Roku, stick it in the back and stream Disney+ direct from my cell, simple enough.
But of course I want the audio coming from my HT system, not a 2" PJ speaker. And I want 3 sources total if possible. Cell and blue ray player are mandatory (cable box would be nice also).
Assuming the player I linked could stream to the PJ, it also appears it can receive a stream... (yes?, and simultaneously?), would I stream my cell to it and it out to the receiver for audio, and also the PJ for video?

 

RE: Interesting, thanks!, posted on December 26, 2020 at 10:40:59
rivervalley817
 25' is really the max you can run HDMI and that's at 720p before getting signal degradation

you could always network the smart TV's ... or 'smart' BD player

use ethernet over power to get around cable runs

TV audio out to the amps

cheap & cheerful!

with regards,


 

RE: Interesting, thanks!, posted on December 26, 2020 at 11:28:52
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 Sorry, 25' hardwired max? Or 25' wireless?
I am moving my rack, so 25' hard will be close. Wireless/straight line maybe 10-12'
The other stuff seems harder to me TBH, ethernet over wire, networking the smart TV... all Dutch to me.

 

RE: Interesting, thanks!, posted on December 26, 2020 at 12:27:30
rivervalley817
 25' hardwired via HDMI

that ethernet over power is a snap, one module plugs into a wall socket near your router, run a network cable from router [or cable box] > module

another module plugs into a wall socket near your projector, TV, BD player, whatever, then a network cable between them

I'm pretty sure I spotted a RJ45 input jack on the right side of your projector illustration, correct?

then you're in business! those modules MUST be plugged into the wall socket though ... no power strips etc. and they're inexpensive

regards,

 

RE: Interesting, thanks!, posted on December 26, 2020 at 07:53:50
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 You can't stream to the Sony, it can only stream audio to other blutooth devices. If you got a new smart TV, you could probably cast video to it from your cell phone.
Other than that things can get a little complicated, if you really need Disney+, you better off finding something with the app built in. Like Roku, Apple TV. Etc.

 

OK, thank you., posted on December 26, 2020 at 09:54:01
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 We have a new smart TV in the living room, that's how this all started. Got Disney+, cool! Just operates thru the TV.
Next was to our older plasma in the bedroom, bought a Google Chromecast pod, so I watch some Disney+ from my cell there also. Wonderful.
Back to the subject at hand, the big room. I'll just use the coax digital out from a DVD player to the receiver for audio. I can do the same from a cable box I'm sure also.
But what device will work best to get video from those sources to the PJ? I know one can buy a Roku stick and get a signal from a cell direct to the PJ via the Roku stick. But that uses the PJ speaker. How to get video from a DVD/BD player and/or cable box to the PJ? Can I stream that? Maybe using an HDMI switch?
I think Disney+ might be harder, as I need something other than a cell, so how to get a Disney+ "box" down there? Not as much a concern for now... main thing is video from my rack to the PJ without hard wiring (if possible).

 

RE: OK, thank you., posted on December 26, 2020 at 11:04:34
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 The Epson dose not seem to have any wireless streaming abilities, your only option is hard wire using HDMI.
I would suggest you buy a AVR to use as main distribution point. Doesn't have to be a expensive one , there are nice ones under $500, like a Marantz nr1510, I have one right now I am trying out. All your sources can go in there and one HDMI go to the projector. Its a really nice all in one preamp, processor, tuner, phone input, and to my surprise, a very good streaming app to get all internet radio.
Its a great upgrade.

 

RE: OK, thank you., posted on December 26, 2020 at 11:18:25
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$500 US equates to $800 CAD + taxes, that's a lot of cash to replace something that, other than these video connections, does the job fine. The Marantz unit actually has pre-outs, but I simply don't have $900 spare change for this.
There is a way to connect the PJ it seems, using a separately purchased LAN module. Would that work? And if so, from both a DVD player and a cable box?
Maybe hardwired is the best solution...

 

RE: OK, thank you., posted on December 26, 2020 at 11:25:30
rivervalley817
 try the ethernet over power solution, use a network cable

why insist on wireless?

regards,

 

Not meaning to insist on wireless, just trying to minimize work., posted on December 26, 2020 at 11:31:17
grantv
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 Just didn't want to run the HDMI cable, but I think that's exactly what I'll be doing. Thank you.

 

RE: Not meaning to insist on wireless, just trying to minimize work., posted on December 26, 2020 at 13:15:00
rivervalley817
 there's 'special' HDMI cables for long runs that will pass 4K

a little pricey but worth it

with regards,

 

Nice, posted on December 26, 2020 at 15:52:37
grantv
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 Good call on that, and thanks for the link

 

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