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You are on to something about artfulness and artificiality being essential to the great films of this genre. "Making the scene too real" is not the best noir. I guess that could extend from b and w, to outlandish dialog & characters, unusual camera angles, etc., etc. Think Dr. Strangelove would classify as noir? Never even thought of that one before.

I'm compiling a list from a book I just read. Not sure if it would be boring. I know I could use it for my own future viewing. BTW, it includes just about every film you mentioned and is mainly "classic" noir from the 40's and 50's.


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