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RE: The second sentence says it all-- the vacillation of all time. And this is one critic. The contention was that

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In Reply to: RE: The second sentence says it all-- the vacillation of all time. And this is one critic. The contention was that posted by tinear on August 20, 2014 at 21:07:03

"ALL critics or at least a consensus saw the Kuro as being beaten. I showed that wasn't so." Really? Where? All you "showed" was a three year old article that did not even have a last gen Panasonic to compare to a Kuro not to mention that the author was talking about 2011 TVs. Two years later the very same author review the last gen Panasonics and stated that they both outperformed the Kuros:

"Let me get this out of the way first: Panasonic's TC-PZT60 is now the best-performing TV we've ever reviewed."

"The TC-PVT60 also beat our in-house Kuro"

"I've read plenty of reviews saying Kuro has never been equalled--- and never will..." Could you link some of those, I would like to read them.

"Also, note the Panasonic isn't manufactured anymore, making buying a new one as difficult as a new Kuro." Common sense says that finding a new display that was discontinued only 8 months ago is far easier and more likely than one discontinued years ago.

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Please, go back, read the second sentence. - tinear 14:01:16 08/21/14 (0)
And this, by the moderator at forums. highdefdigest.com
"It isn't about surpassing, or having the ability to. Pioneer couldn't figure out a way to make Kuro displays without them being cost prohibitive. Kuros weren't expensive because they were making money, they were expensive because it cost a lot more to make those displays than others.

Panasonic, when they bought a lot of the Kuro technology, took what they could that could be profitable, but were not able to find a better way than Pioneer had in getting the pure blacks and quality that Pioneer had been delivering with Kuro without running into the same issue of price that Pioneer ran into.

So, while we have a ton of new bells and whistles, at the end of the day, putting out a phenomenal $8,000 50" display is going to lose manufacturers money, and so they don't even go down that path.

Panasonic has their new ZT series, but I'm not sure what the difference is between that and that VT series." That's from 2013, the last year of Panasonic plasma.
Like that legendary Sony CDP-101, it's a classic. If Panasonic infinitesimally beat the Kuro in blackness, that still leaves overall picture and build quality.
Let's see if seven years from now people are competing to pay top dollar for the Panasonics.

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