"Bladerunner 2049" HD is now on Comcast pay-per-view, if anyone is interested. nt

You mean - they are gonna pay me for watching it? I am game!, posted on January 29, 2018 at 14:21:09
Victor Khomenko Manufacturer Posts: 55319 Joined: April 5, 2000	Jeez... I can go into another room and watch something I like. :)

You sound like a movie critic. Watch, write, receive cash., posted on January 29, 2018 at 16:17:08
free.ranger Audiophile Posts: 16951 Location: Santa Fe, NM Joined: April 8, 2004 Contributor Since: January 7, 2005	But you couldn't walk out to see Gilligan's Island reruns.

You can start by sending me $6.99., posted on January 30, 2018 at 06:14:15
Victor Khomenko Manufacturer Posts: 55319 Joined: April 5, 2000	Buys me a cheap six-pak... :)

*Is that your senior price or regular price? , posted on February 1, 2018 at 21:00:45**
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What is "senior"? , posted on February 2, 2018 at 12:18:13
Victor Khomenko Manufacturer Posts: 55319 Joined: April 5, 2000	Need to ask my wife.

That will barely get you a pint in a Seattle brewpub. I'll send $10., posted on January 30, 2018 at 09:35:48
free.ranger Audiophile Posts: 16951 Location: Santa Fe, NM Joined: April 8, 2004 Contributor Since: January 7, 2005	I want to be fair about this.

I will then donate $3.01 to... , posted on January 30, 2018 at 10:29:13

Victor Khomenko
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...the Unemployed Liberal Actor Fund.

I only keep what I deserve, and watching that film registers fairly low on my stress meter.

RE: "Bladerunner 2049" now on ppview. spoilers, perhaps.., posted on January 28, 2018 at 14:07:12

user510

Having viewed this movie a few times by now I have some thoughts.
Like: If 'Androids Might Dream of Electric Sheep', Replicants, in 2049, have electric girl friends.

Like Bladerunner before it, Bladerunner 2049 continues to present the largest corporations as evil entities.

Unlike Bladerunner, Bladerunner 2049 shows sympathy for replicants while putting on display no small amount of the human bigotry against them. A wierd fantasy.

If there were a third movie, would we viewers (all human btw) be rooting for the replicants to eradicate all human life on Earth? It seems it might go that way based on this movie.

All the above said, I liked this movie.

-Steve

So do you think...(spoiler alert)..., posted on January 28, 2018 at 18:33:45
mkuller Audiophile Posts: 38130 Location: SF Bay Area Joined: April 22, 2003	...Decker is a replicant?

Yes..., posted on February 2, 2018 at 08:46:20

mkuller
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...if Deckard is human why do they want him?

Makes little sense this way.

Answers

RE: Yes..., posted on February 6, 2018 at 16:02:40

user510

"In Philip K Dick's story Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, Rick is not a replicant - he passes the Voigt-Kampff test and has a wife. The film version made some changes."

Above quote from the linked article. So....this means that any suggestion of Deckard being a replicant comes from Ridley Scott, not the author of the novel.

That said, Scott did have some face time with the author before he died.

-Steve

RE: Yes..., posted on February 6, 2018 at 16:25:47
mkuller Audiophile Posts: 38130 Location: SF Bay Area Joined: April 22, 2003	...in interviews I've read, Ridley Scott said Deckerd was a replicant and Harrison Ford disagreed saying he was human. That keeps the controversy alive. But I'm assuming Scott knows and Ford is talking about his acting.

Do replicants show their age?..., posted on February 5, 2018 at 06:05:44
musetap Audiophile Posts: 31891 Location: San Francisco Joined: July 8, 2003 Contributor Since: January 28, 2004	'Cause Deckard sure as hell does. Ever seen an "old" replicant? And he's an "old" model. "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure

Do replicants show their age?..., posted on February 5, 2018 at 08:20:17

mkuller
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...from the article I linked:

"Evidence that new model replicants can age comes from Hiam Abbass's Freysa, the leader of the replicant resistance. A 30-year-old photo of her with Rachael's baby shows that Freysa has visibly aged. Replicant Sapper Morton (Dave Bautista) also wear glasses, indicating a deterioration likely to have come with age (there'd be no reason to add a sight defect to a replicant).

Deckard is also able to be beaten up by Luv, but Luv is a newer model and younger - if replicants age and deteriorate, this isn't a indication that he's definitely human.

Of course, this does not mean Deckard is a replicant. It just means he could be."

No... N/T, posted on January 29, 2018 at 20:43:02
musetap Audiophile Posts: 31891 Location: San Francisco Joined: July 8, 2003 Contributor Since: January 28, 2004	nn "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure

Here is the argument..., posted on January 29, 2018 at 15:43:32

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...on each side.

Is he or isn't he?

It was VERY stongly implied (spoiler alert), posted on January 29, 2018 at 07:58:04
Jack G Audiophile Posts: 9741 Joined: September 24, 1999	In the final version of Blade runner-The Final Cut. Ridley Scott added a scene that was not in the original. It changed things quite a bit. He had the dream about a unicorn that Replicants have. Gaff (Edward James Olmos)knew about it and did an origami unicorn. Jack PS. If you haven't seen "The Final Cut", do so. IMO, it's the best version made

Enemy with Jake Gyllenhaal?, posted on January 29, 2018 at 02:35:17

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I thought Blade Runner 2049 was excellent and the fact we're asking questions "was Deckard a replicant?" is one of the reasons I liked it.

While I'm here - has anyone seen Blade Runner 2049 director Denis Villeneuve's 'Enemy' with Jake Gyllenhaal?

It was a film I watched twice, then I Googled opinion to ascertain what the symbolism represented etc. But don't be scared away, it was a nail-biter too.

IMDB
"...Adam Bell (Gyllenhaal) is a glum, disheveled history professor, who seems disinterested even in his beautiful girlfriend, Mary (Laurent). Watching a movie on the recommendation of a colleague, Adam spots his double, a bit-part actor named Anthony Clair, and decides to track him down..."

Isn't his the human gene of the hybrid kid they were seeking?, posted on January 29, 2018 at 00:18:07
free.ranger Audiophile Posts: 16951 Location: Santa Fe, NM Joined: April 8, 2004 Contributor Since: January 7, 2005	With Rachel being the mother?

That's how I took it...., posted on January 29, 2018 at 09:50:02
Steve O Audiophile Posts: 12405 Location: SE MI Joined: September 6, 2001	...it was hinted at but I don't recall outright statement thus leaving room for doubt. Didn't see directors cut of original so no "insight" from that.

That's how I took it...., posted on February 2, 2018 at 13:04:58
mkuller Audiophile Posts: 38130 Location: SF Bay Area Joined: April 22, 2003	...my take is that if he was human, any human could do it. But if he was a replicant, they would be able to make others like him to breed.

RE: That's how I took it...., posted on February 5, 2018 at 18:35:34
Steve O Audiophile Posts: 12405 Location: SE MI Joined: September 6, 2001	*"...my take is that if he was human, any human could do it."* Not necessarily. What if his genome contained a mutation that allowed replicant fertility? Not "any human could do it". Ultimately, this aspect of the movie is quite intentionally a Rorschach ink blot: you can read anything into it you want. And as we saw at the end of 2049, it sets up interest in another sequel.

RE: So do you think...(spoiler alert)..., posted on January 28, 2018 at 22:12:28
user510	Not sure. I caught the suggestion but it did not seem like solid evidence. He's human. I'm pretty sure. Almost. Nah. Couldn't be. -Steve

"Bladerunner 2049"..., posted on January 28, 2018 at 11:59:48
mkuller Audiophile Posts: 38130 Location: SF Bay Area Joined: April 22, 2003	...one of my favorites from last year. No doubt it will win an Oscar or two for visual effects, sound and such. It benefits from being watched on the biggest screen you can find.

Its been on Blu-Ray for a couple weeks now. (nt), posted on January 28, 2018 at 05:50:58
Jack G Audiophile Posts: 9741 Joined: September 24, 1999	.

Rented one from Redbox, posted on January 27, 2018 at 22:01:02
violinist3 Audiophile Posts: 2922 Location: San Diego California Joined: August 7, 2003	I'll probably watch it again when the library gets a copy. Glad to get away from all those CGI heavy movies.

RE: Rented one from Redbox, posted on February 14, 2018 at 03:25:56
beach cruiser Audiophile Posts: 7061 Location: so cal Joined: September 24, 2003	I'm going to go watch it on tuesday of next week with an interview afterwards with the production designer. I fell asleep at my first viewing attempt, and only hope I didn't snore. This will probably be my last opportunity to see it in good projection and with an audience. Does anyone have a question for the production designer ?

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"Bladerunner 2049" HD is now on Comcast pay-per-view, if anyone is interested. nt

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