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Why adults would watch super hero movies. I was invited along with my GF and her daughters family to go see the Avengers last night.
Full of over the top violence. Just silly. Very loud and dynamic but free of shrill HF so kudos to that my
To me the attempts at humor were poor. Very much a Hollywood formula film. The special effects don't do anything for me. I saw enough (obvious) CGI in the first twenty minutes to satisfy me for......well I don't know but a long time.
At least I wasn't a spoil sport telling nobody I attended the film with anything but niceties.
I have to wonder what seeing all that violence and killing does to desensitize kids. When I was a kid watching Bond movies......ah what's the point.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
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While CGI is a staple of most genre films these days (action, superhero, science fiction, etc.), it was not overused here. The final hour's grand battle required ...well, grand effects, but the earlier part of Endgame was devoted to human interaction between the surviving heroes, including how each dealt with loss and the sense of failure.
Violence, really? I'm just not seeing what you saw. There was very little gore in this movie in spite of the complicated CGI enhanced battle scenes. Killing and taking revenge wasn't the principle theme of Endgame. If there was an overriding theme, it was self-sacrifice. Winning in the context of this final Avengers film should be seen as coming to grips with personal loss and setting things right that had gone awry. However, as happy endings go, the final Avenger's film is unquestionably bittersweet.
If you're concerned about how younger folks internalize violent messages on film, there are a plethora of better, harsher examples in the action film genre with far gruesomer blood soaked CGI visuals. For instance, Endgame pales in comparison to most interactive video games that have violent content. BTW, most of the humorous banter in Endgame was clever, not cheesy and infantile, following closely the character developed for each of the actor's roles.
IMO, Endgame is one of the best superhero films Marvel Studios & Disney have released, and as such fully deserving of it's popularity and impressive profits.
The guy made movies into cartoons with it. Saturation with blood and guts brought desensitization of it. Which carries over into street behavior after walking out of theaters. People think it's normal. But that kind of thing goes way back. Cowboy movies when I was a kid showed me that shooting people was heroic.
At least with the comic book heroes, its supposedly taking place within fantasy world settings, not home. Combining all of the Avenger/Justice League/Superman mayhem wreaked upon us so far, half of the planet has been destroyed.
I don't really buy that watching screen violence will make someone violent as most people who have watched violent films don't go around killing people. It's used as an excuse because people want to blame something (other than guns of course). Every other country in the world watches the Terminator and Quentin Tarantino films. The rest of the world all watches the same US films. So the correlation isn't there.
Perhaps it's that the USA is so totally PRUDISH and closed minded that the vast sexual frustration in the USA is the root cause of angry men who can't get laid go out and get violent due to their inadequacy.
In Europe they showed TV and films with a lot of nudity and sex and yes they would place violence in the R and X rated equivalency. The US did it the other way.
Shoot 100 people with giddy glee but man - never show a boob!
Nudity and sex are natural things that make people feel good - can't bloody well show any of that! But kill 100 people in a bloodbath - hey no problem. The funny thing is that most everyone on this forum were sucking milk out of a boob as babies - that life providing boob was then made shameful by religious morons mostly in the southern US. All of whom are packing heat 24/7. Backwater Deliverance donkeys screwing up the country. Yeehaw - killing is good - boobs are terrible cover your eyes. WTF!
by mistake in a nearly 100 YO short yesterday.
We all gasped. The cop was up and running around again a minute later.
The rest of any of the other violence was more slapstick and par for the comic course.
But that one scene was really and SURPRISINGLY disturbing, and much more violent than anything portrayed in John Ford's feature Hell Bent.
It happened at the SILENT film festival in this pairing:
Tarantino may have turned gore into a cartoon later, but the scenes in Reservoir Dogs are still squirmingly horrendous.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Haven't attended since around 2012, but can't recommend it enough. Absolutely wonderful film festival. It's a long trip from Ft. Worth to San Francisco by train (I don't like to fly), but loved the Festival both times we attended. Unfortunately, the Festival dates shifted around that time and stared clashing directly with San Diego ComicCon. We begrudgingly dropped SFSFF from our calendar due to the scheduling conflict.
Since the SFSFF organizers have moved the dates away from SDCC we may be able to work this back into our schedules next year.
Cheers,
AuPh
Yes, it's mostly fantasy. But with "Dusk to Dawn"--well, I've been in bars like that.
I'd brave that bar for Salma Hayak!
Boggles the mind!
Checking out the great titles sequences and waiting for the Bond girls.
Sean Connery was cool.
The rest was mostly filler, especially post Connery and pre Brosnan .
If you think that Marvel stuff is violent, stay away from the Deadpool (though it's fun and intelligent).
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
The Spy Who Loved Me was one of the best Bond films though - just to give a little props to Roger Moore et al for that one. I prefer Connery but this one was a hoot.
I read all the books three times and two of them four times. After Connery I was not as excited about the films but I perked up with Craig.
Amazon Prime, Netflix, HBO, etc. These are the homes of high value productions for grown-ups, be they serialised dramas or features.
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
They are an attack on the senses and, exhausted, I fall asleep after about 45 minutes.
I enjoy some super hero movies, but the latter ones are too violent for my taste as well. The last one I saw was Batman, which was on the edge for me.
Perhaps try watching the TV Series Supergirl. More human drama - Melissa Benoist is adorable and more family friendly - like Smallville in some ways.
Television is forced to adopt more story and character because it tends to have less budget to fill the time with CGI. So there are better chances at story arcs and fleshing out characters.
I thought in general that Americans LOVED Violence - You can watch the Terminator mow down 100 people with a machine gun but Janet Jackson shows a nipple and the entire country is an uproar. And every other American seems to be packing heat and cops always shooting some guy surrendering. But the problem is movies?
It had a better story, more character development, and less CGI.
That's my recipe for a more enjoyable 'super hero' movie pretty much right there.
"To Learn Who Rules Over You, Simply Find Out Who You Are Not Allowed to Criticize."
-Voltaire
I'll have to check it out, thanks.
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Will be overtaking Avatar (another CGI cartoon) in a couple of weeks.
So you are definitely in the minority in your opinion here.
Not a bad thing, that. There are lots of hit movies I can't stand.
"To Learn Who Rules Over You, Simply Find Out Who You Are Not Allowed to Criticize."
-Voltaire
I discovered that good movies are rare. Even if it was free I couldnt go to the theater that often. I'll probably eventually get Avengers dvd for free from the library ( in 4 months) just to see what all the fuss was about.
Food for thought. ;0)
Cheers,
AuPh
I save hundreds every year borrowing DVDs from the library. It's one of the benefits of my city taxes. The other is the local swimming pool. I take good care of everything I borrow. Rarely go to red box.
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