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Well, I think the series has about shot its goo. This was the least compelling or entertaining of the trilogy. There was less "scenic" action and no spectacular chases or fistifcuffs (except for one fight). The characters were flat even though they loaded up the cast with Straithorn and Finney. This time around I think the story was hampered by the slimmer budget.The door is open for number four but everything has been done now. There is no point and after this weekend I doubt there will be much of a box.
I'm disappointed and will have to say Damon/Guillermo's Thursday night sketch on Kimmel was far better than the film.
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Complicit Constapo Talibangelical since MMIII
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You're in the minority sir. More evidence that it is impossible to please everyone.
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Try metacritic or rotten tomatoes.
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Just in case he wasn't talking about here.
"You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."
...a review by majority decision! Of a bunch of wannabe (not "top") major critics.
And by the way, that incredible-looking "97% favorable" designation masks the reality of an 8.2 out of 10 average, i.e. four stars out of five. Not bad, but not a grand slam either.
Myself, I go for what Anthony Lane, or Ty Burr, or Duncan Shepherd, or James Verniere, say, might say -- these guys' approaches to film are already well-known to me.
Finally, I did not write it was a *bad* movie, only that it did *very efficiently* what it set out to do, which wasn't much; and there were major lapses in the plotting.
clark
PS So what did *you* think of it?
I don't get so many critics saying it's the best of the three because for me it wasn't as emotionally engaging as the others.
I think it may be a situation where, in a summer of mostly disappointing franschise installments, the best of the lot got overblown praise.
"You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."
It never fails to astonish me though, how writers and audiences still accept these cheats:
Gotta escape? I'll just jump-start the nearest car!
Gotta get inside? I'll just swipe this handy card left over from my previous adventures!
Live Free or Die Hard had blessedly little of that.
clark
Not to mention Damon walking away from car crash after car crash. Anyone who's ever been in even a fender bender knows how shaken up one gets. Yet our boy Matt eschews the jaws of life and just opens the door and continues the chase.
But these movies are pure fun, no matter how outrageous. And the music is simply terrific.
...those reviews are a substitute for your own first hand opinions. So you can put your miniature violin away and save the sad tunes for another thread.> > > "...a review by majority decision! Of a bunch of wannabe (not "top") major critics." < < <
Baloney! The opinions of Rotten Tomatoes critics are just as credible as a few wannabe hot shot divas who think that their own prose is beyond reproach. Being a "major critic" given the context you've provided only qualifies one for a position as an elitist snob, IMO.
> > > "And by the way, that incredible-looking "97% favorable" designation masks the reality of an 8.2 out of 10 average, i.e. four stars out of five. Not bad, but not a grand slam either." < < <
It's called a consensus; what's wrong with that? BTW, there's nothing 'masked' about the averaging.
> > > "Myself, I go for what Anthony Lane, or Ty Burr, or Duncan Shepherd, or James Verniere, say, might say -- these guys' approaches to film are already well-known to me." < < <
Excuse me, do you have any Grey Poupon? ;0)
AuPh
...it was loaded for bear!
While I did rather enjoy the movie (I had fallen asleep during a DVD showing of Supremacy), I actually preferred Live Free or Die Hard (within the genre). The car crashes, though, were louder in the former -- and I saw them in the same theatre.
But there were holes, many holes.
The rapid camera work allowed no sense of place to develop, so when Bourne was being chased through alleys and corridors we had no idea where he might be able to head, or where possible pitfalls lay. So how did he know? We were unable to discern his thought process in those high-pressure moments.
In Tangier he ended up with the constabulary chasing him en masse, although I saw no alert put out to them.
In New York he jump-started cars -- that's a survival tactic I thought had been made to disappear, among major auto makers.
Everywhere he went he still seemed to have the right access cards and codes. Very handy!
A key word in the plot is "blackbriar", which was first recognized through Echelon audio detection -- although how that word was distinguished from "blackfriar" (as in where you grab a pint or two) beats me, as the aural confusion can be found in several reviews, where even the critic heard and printed the latter word.
The exciting, early-on sequence of following Bourne continuously around town via numerous cameras happened, please note, not in America but in London, the most clandestinely-watched city in the world. That's a cautionary note for those who would have America be more like Europe.
The sound mix was excellent, one segment especially where it cut back and forth between two separate chases: LOUD, soft, LOUD, soft...
Bourne/Damon still has flat affect, but cleverly that was built into the character. The other members of the cast are quite good, especially David Strathairn. But why the two women turned on the gov and went over to his side, baffles me still.
clark
I rather enjoyed the "break" from the respected movies of Bergman, Fellini, Tarkovsky, etc I've been watching mostly. It's mindless, high-impact, stress-release action flick at its best; all these genres have their place and need..
...a lot - while it may be the weakest of the trilogy in terms of character development and plot, it more than makes up for it in action.
Roger Ebert once said you know you've seen a good film when you walk out and can't remember where you parked your car.
This film was like that - I got so involved in the action and what's going on that at the end when the lights in the theater came up, I felt a little disoriented.
Definitely the best action film of the summer.
I enjoyed it but. I'm tired of the rapid cutting, fight choreography was very good but lost in that rapid MTV style of editing.Plus the scene with
the brother, I'm sure they could afford a tripod or maybe cut down on the
cameramans coffee.
I might go see it again tho cause I did enjoy it.Who would have thought
Matt could be an action star.
Later
Rich
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Complicit Constapo Talibangelical since MMIII
Pull the camera away and let me see what's going on. What's the point of choreographing a fight scene if you're not going to show the fighters? Bourne Supremacy was guilty of that too. The first one was ok.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
a sense of violence and involvement that a wide shot can't bring. How many westerns have you seen where an outdoor fight scene is almost boring-the absolute antithesis of what the director hoped for. Compare that to, say, the barroom fight in 'Shane'. The small interior dimensions of the set forces close camera work and, because of that, you get to feel the intensity of the violence. To the point, at least for me, of increased heart rate and goosebumps.
The fight scene in 'Supremacy', between Bourne and his fellow assassin in the modern-furnished flat, was just superb: from the tension-filled early moments to the wild, in-your-face camera work, and the use of anything and everything available to defeat your enemy. In one scene, it summed up what these men had been trained to do. To me, it was very, very well done.
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