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The family had final approval? That's the death of art, then, isn't it?

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tinear

In Reply to: RE: National Geographic Adventure magazine, Oct 07 issue. posted by free.ranger on October 11, 2007 at 12:55:09

I'll probably see it because Penn screws up but he does so in interesting ways, as a director.
You really should put a "SPOILER" heading in a post in which you give away critical parts of a film!

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Where did you see anything in that post that said the family had final approval? - sjb 09:44:45 10/12/07 (4)
It said JK worked closely (and slowly) with them on the book - to convince them of his honesty and probably to gain their trust and have them open up - and that they initially decided not to have the movie made and then 10 years later, when it was going to made by someone other than Penn, they decided to have it made.
The reason they initally rejected the film was because the mother had a dream in which the son said he didn't want it made. She told Sean Penn about it and he said... to paraphrase... "If I didn't respect dreams I wouldn't be making movies."
Sounds like you're in danger of letting those couple of paragraphs in the New Yorker taint your perception of this film.

"You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."

Edits: 10/12/07
- Shoot, Steve, it says "approval" in both the novelist's and Penn's - tinear 13:28:52 10/12/07 (3)
  contacts with the family.
  As a former reporter, I never was "trusted" by a subject because they knew I'd not work to get their approval: I served a different master as should Penn.
  That means that Penn, if he wished, could cast the young man as a delusional, egotistical little pig who only thought of himself, bringing his miserably short life to an end after having done absolutely nothing for anyone, including himself.
  A stockbroker that takes a few hours a week to help out in a soup kitchen is far more worthwhile.
  Or the guy who got gobbled up by the bears; he died trying, no matter how miserably, to save those animals.
  I'll go with an open mind to the work because I've surprised myself plenty, previously. One can, after all, appreciate a work of art and despise the protagonist: that's the difference between life and art, right?
  - There's a differnce between approval (of the idea, principles... i.e. JK or SP) and "final" apporval - sjb 14:19:54 10/12/07 (2)
    of the product (book or movie).
    
    I haven't read or heard anything that even suggests they had final approval on anything.
    
    "You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."
    - They refused to cooperate with others in the past but then - tinear 12:30:09 10/13/07 (0)
      decided to: you seem to be a tad naive here for arguments sake.
      Penn knew what he had to do, though to base it upon K's book he probably had to be somewhat true to it.
      Why would someone need the family's approval at all?
      I don't know why you seem to come to a halt on the adjective "final."
      If they approve, they approve and they participate. Penn felt he needed their blessing which a guy like Herzog, a far more accomplished film maker, never did in his many documentaries.
    - My thoughts precisely. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:19:24 10/13/07 (0)
      ac

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