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In Reply to: RE: Fassbinder's magnum opus, "Berlin Alexanderplatz:" posted by tinear on December 18, 2007 at 08:49:15
He was a terrible guy, nasty and mean, but his work tend to the contrary...
Ah, this unreachable ideals...
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Put another way, if an author is going to write things about an "average Joe," don't you think he'd gloss over the good and concentrate on the bad, assuming he wanted to maximize sales?
Not sticking up for Fassbinder, whom I didn't know (of course), but I'd take rumors for a grain of sea salt.
Anyhow, who cares if Raphael was egotistical?
Or that Proust was condescending and cruel?
Or Dostoyevsky mean-spirited and violent?
I'm not looking for buddies among artists.
You mention stuff like this, regularly, so it seems it affects your total view of the artist?
Not mine.
I don't care.
I like Wagner's music.
I like to read Kierkegaard (sp?).
I bet you've enjoyed de Sade???
First even it don´t count in this discussion, Fassbinder was not a real nice guy, not at all.
Read many interviews about him and the latest being Schygulla meaning about him..
He was a sadist, always trying to arrange that people hate each other.
But what I want to point out was that he try t compensate in his flms about his bad means.
No I don´t hear Wagner´s music any more, I don´t like it and I despise the man.
Why should I?
Mein kampf is still not my prefered bedside lecture...Nor is it Sade which is just despitful but fascinating because he did not know any limit.
As an experience he is the trip worth.
But one trip, in a one way ticket.
You guess it, If the author an absolute asshole is in his life, I cannot like his work.
From a rooten tree never saw good apples...
We like that with goose liver and a toast.
aren't considered "nice guys," you hate their work?
Myself, I consider art as being a separate category from personality.
If a horrendous person makes great art, is it a form of fortune's egalitarianism, no?
Hemingway was an anti-Semite, do I now begin to hate the works I loved before? What if I know nothing about an artist, should I not touch their works until I know more?
Now, if the person is still living, it's a bit more difficult.
I've recently read of a former comic in France, a man of color, who now is one of the leading anti-Semites in France. I'd probably not find anything he does of interest or humor...
BTW, I find Mein Kampf and some Karl Marx & Co. writings interesting, though of course their authors directly or indirectly led to tens of millions of deaths.
Yes a work that led to misery....
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Can you see with your very own sense & sensibility who is a swine and who is not.
Wagner, peuh!
How bad they really were?
For modern time artists we know better.
Take Villon, he was bad but only bad.
And brillant upon the stars above.
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