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In Reply to: RE: You are mistaken posted by Jack G on May 24, 2008 at 05:38:03
I should explain "gotta". The PAL>NTSC is for my DVDs only. But I want *one* machine that will play BDs and R1-2-4 DVDs. I have many standard DVDs from UK/Europe and a couple from R4 that I doubt will be on BD any time soon. I hate having so many boxes to play movies, hate hooking up so much stuff. I can live with it short term, but I don't like it.
I wish Oppo had their BD model ready but that probably won't happen any time soon.
Since it looks like the Oz/German discs were the same, it doesn't matter where it comes from for my purposes. But for the 20-30 other non R1 standard DVDs I really need that BD region free, DVD PAL>NTSC thing. So far the only ones I've seen available from HK or Europe are $800-1000.
The good news is that so far all of the Europe only BDs I want are region free.
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I'm in the same boat. I probably have hundreds of imported DVDs, and right now, I have 3 players under my TV.
Jack
Many TVs can handle both PAL and NTSC inputs. My Denon DVD player happily outputs either PAL or NTSC and my TV accepts both. Ditto for my PS3. The Denon's front panel display happily states that the output is 480 i or p for NTSC discs and 576 i or p for PAL depending on whether I let it do the de-interlacing. My display doesn't care.
Hell, I'm in Australia which is Region 4 with a PAL standard def TV system and some of the studios even release some Region 4 discs in NTSC. People don't look, they simply pop them in their players and the TV looks after it. Most people probably don't even know what they're doing and have never heard of PAL or NTSC. The studios could only get away with it if the TVs and displays were capable of handling both signals.
Check your display's manual and I suspect you'll find there is no problem.
David Aiken
The vast majority of TVs in US are not PAL compatible. Never have been. In fact, I'd say 99.9% of displays sold in retail outlets can't display PAL - there are some front projecters that are exceptions and there may be specialty dealers still importing Loewens (doubtful, haven't seen any of these CRT German TVs in about 7 years). There were a few CRT Sampos sold a few years ago, but they're long gone and your average person never knew they existed. Most people here have no idea there are even diferent video standards.The TVs that ordinary consumers see at their local electronics stores definitely don't do PAL. Plus many of the DVD players available in stores are set to R1 and aren't region free without hacks - plenty of players don't even have a conversion capability. Some that do don't do it very well. You have to research what players do what out of the box and which have hack codes.
Several online sellers, including Amazon, sell DVD region free converting players. There used to be a specialty dealer selling NTSC/PAL/SECAM tvs on the net - smallish 4:3 aspect ratio CRT TVs targeted for people moving from US to foreign lands. Extremely exxpensive for mediocre, outdated TVs when people can get a much better display that does NTSC and PAL at their destination.
Y'all are lucky in Oz and Europe. It's assumed you'll be watching imported discs. In North American it's just the opposite, it's assumed we won't.
That's why many of us are eagerly awaiting the BD player from Oppo, which will have BD capability, superior DVD upscaling and outstanding PAL> NTSC conversion.
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