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In Reply to: RE: Agreed posted by eppis1 on May 28, 2008 at 22:24:17
Ghost stories are not my cup 'o tea, but I am very impressed with del Toro--more as a director. I am intrigued about The Hobbit, now that it's evident he will be directing it. He has a much more "human" and emotional touch than Jackson and I think The Hobbit may come alive as a result, in a way beyond Jackson's Rings trilogy.
-------------Call it, friendo.
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...but this movie is more of a psychological thriller, not scary. It's more about loss, the state of mind of the protagonist and how to resolve wounds of the past in the crucible of the present. It was marketed as a genre film...but it's not...not really. It's in another class from The Others and Sixth Sense. Give it a shot.Eppis had it right, this movie reminds me quite a bit of Nic Roeg's Don't Look Back. Or maybe The Innocents. While it's not as good as Roeg's masterpiece it's an excellent movie, an adult movie. A horror films it's not.
I couldn't be happier about GDT directing The Hobbit. I'm prepared to be delighted by a fresh vision. This is the right man at theright palce at the right time.
I had Sam Cutler, the Stones' old tour manager, over a couple of nights ago, and his autobiography (published later this year)is being put up for filming. I thought Roeg would be a great director for it, but Sam thought he had died.
I think is an exaggeration of his position... condition.
BTW, I look forward to Mr. Cutler's book. Back in the day I edited and wrote for a music magazine, both rock and classical. I did most of the rock interviews and articles and got to meet many interesting folks back in the day - the Stones not among them
I would guess Sam has much more material than he can ever use.
...last did an episode of Young Indiana Jones and before that a film in 2007 of Fay Weldon's Puffball, which I haven't seen. He hasn't had much acclaim since The Witches, which is a darned shame. He's gotta be pushing 80 but I bet he's never been fully defanged.
Nic would be the PERFECT director for anything involving the Stones, sex, drugs, obsession and male power. I saw Performance as a teen, in its US theatrical run, at an X-rated theater. I'd have to say it rearranged my level of cinematic sophistication by a magnitude of about 100. Changed the way I felt about and looked at movies forever. I realize Donald Cammell had a ton to do with that film, but Walkabout, Don't Look Now and The Man Who Fell To Earth were important landmarks in my film journey.
FWIW, I think Puffball would fit with the Don't Look Now and The Orhanage style psychological/occult thriller.
A very interesting film indeed.
I believe it was held u before release for some 2 years as the studio had been expecting an updated swinging London film.
Cammell had been a lynchpin or at least a major partaker of London in the mid 60s and was I believe responsible (alleged alleged) for the major part that LSD played in the making of Performance.
The test screening must have been something... with one person legendarily vomiting.
I find Jagger's involvement fascinating as he always found LSD troublesome as it reduced his ego, which is one of the key themes of the film.
Catharsis perhaps.
I seem to remember Fox was so... changed/disturbed/effected... by the experience he went to a christian retreat for some time afterwards claiming he would never make another film.
My memory of those times is likely to be influenced by fiction almost as much as fact, so some of these stories may be just that.
I know Cammell was largely sidelined by the industry afterwards and finally shot himself although even the circumstances of that are disputed.
Anita Pallenberg, at the time Keith Richards' girlfriend, caused major ructions, although even as I write that I realise the sexism of the statement, by having real sex with Jagger in the film (outtakes of which later won a porn film award). She was also involved with Brian Jones and was a key influence in the image/real changes within that group from say 66 to 71.
She has been on a retainer/pension from the Stones even, I think until now.
Performance is for sure a druggy film, and conveys that experience better than almost any other film I can think of.
It must have been a pretty chaotic shoot with those personalities, sex, drugs and rock & roll colliding in that Knightbridge mansion. I doubt it would ever have been completed except for Roeg being the craftsman that he was. BTW, Keith was quite upset with the Mick and Anita scene, refusing to play on Memo From Turner, which I cannot now imagine without Ry Cooder's slide guitar. Mick's persona in Performance seems to partake as much of Brian Jones as his own, with a little actorishness thrown in besides.
The film was shelved for two years and given a minimal release in USA in 1970 - it was x rated and had almost no distribution in the US. The General Cinemas of the time wouldn't touch it. It made a few art/rep houses and a few special runs in porn houses. That's where I saw it, in 1970 as a high school senior. The vomiting episode was in 1970 at an industry screening just prior to it's actual release. I can only imagine the horror at WB when they saw it in 1968. It was pretty strong stuff, and not just the sex. This is one of the few movies where most of thelegends and myths about it are probably true.
Edward Fox has never the same, although he seems to have recovered well wnough and has been highly successful in his career, though maybe not what he could have been. He apparently wasn't a drug taker before Performance, so the experience was life altering for him. Cammell never quite fulfilled his promise and could never get complete control over his movie projects. Someone is making a movie this year from his unproduced script The Cull.
There's a pretty good doc which covers from Cammell's career and has a lot about Performance - I presume you've seen it ("Donald Cammell, The Ultimate Performance"). It's included in the new DVD of the film and has been aired on cable several times.
Cammell is something of a sad tale as he never had a decent budget or artistic control over his projects except White Of The Eye. The studio totally mauled the US release of Wild Side, which no doubt contributed to Cammell's depression and ultimate demise. I haven't seen Demon Seed in years but White of The Eye and Wild Side (in the 111 minute R2 version restored by Cammell friend/collaborator Frank Mazolla) are still worth seeing. In addition to the "script", Cammell contributed a lot to the look of Performance and was always disappointed Roeg got most of the credit for directing,
I would love to see Roeg get another good project and some acclaim, he's not going to be around forever.
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