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Saw it today and loved it. One of the very few films I'm thinking about seeing again and I almost never pay to see a film twice. If your looking for a history lesson you will hate it. If you are a Tarentino fan it is a great ride. Easlily, the most enjoyable film I've paid to see in 2009.
-Wendell
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...but I wouldn't say it's great.
"Pulp Fiction" is great, including the soundtrack.
IB had an interesting plot with quirky characters and some terrific dialogue.
Who were the "good guys'? Bet Dick Cheney liked it a lot.
I'd give it a B-.
I haven't seen P F in awhile. I loved it. My initial impression is I B is better. I need to watch both again and see if my initial impression is correct. I also really liked the K B films but know I like the new one better. There isn't much that Tarantino does I don't like. I enjoy his quirky take on situations
-Wendell
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I'm pretty sure that track was taken from the Cat People soundtrack. I've been a Bowie fan for almost forty years.
-Wendell
It was a remix, I believe. That is, it sounds different than the original soundtrack of Cat People which I have. Just saw this today. The thing to me about QT is that foremost he is so fugueing clever. The wit of the carryings on and the dialogue in the bar scene was really something. He must have seen every 40's and 50's british film in existence for his detail. Imagine his library. One thing that comes thru for me is the love this guy has for movies. He honors them. Aldo Ray for those of you who don't know was a 50's actor who did mostly war movies. His plots are always three dimensional (well, maybe not always quite) and the way he weaves it all together is his genius. Even his choice of principle actors in this rocks. This guy can really write when he wants to and he's in ter-ri-fic form here.
Edits: 09/12/09 09/12/09 09/12/09
I just couldn't enjoy this very much. Lots of talky scenes bereft of the cleverness Quentin used to display so easily. And then the ridiculous climax. You think there would be only a few soldiers around to guard ALL the top Nazis? That alone was enough to sink it. There is artistic license and then there is gross ridiculousness.
And the black guy running around at that point in Nazi occupied France was just silly. What was the purpose of his character???
A weak film.
I hope Quentin just tossed this out as a small exercise while he put his genius into some magnum opus of which we've heard about for some time.
This was weak.
Do you think that one should watch his films from alogical point of view.?
I made that fault too.
Now I have learnt to see it as a dream, a series of dreams.
Even dreams, to be taken seriously by the dreamer, have to have logical continuity, i.e. they must be true to their created reality. This film went far over any reasonable line into parody and fantasy. The dialogue was trite, the attempts to build suspense, as in the very first scene, exhausted the audience and the climax, guys firing into a basement, was a let down.
I'm glad you liked it.
Mine all over the place. You're still wrong about the film. It was great!
-Wendell
own logical consistency, as crazy as that might be or you'd wake up.
I just read Anthony Lane's opinion of the film and, though he expresses himself about a gazillion times better than ever I could, he says more or less the same thing.
Inglourious Basterds rating by the masses
20,059 41.9% 10
13,119 27.4% 9
7,413 15.5% 8
2,949 6.2% 7
1,274 2.7% 6
676 1.4% 5
381 0.8% 4
320 0.7% 3
293 0.6% 2
1,426 3.0% 1
The last one must have been you. :-)
-Wendell
of his last two (released as one).
Tin- Be thankful you didn't see the one after the Bill's. I still say the studios were throwing money at him faster than he could create good work. He has redeemed himself to me with Bastards. I rather like his sense of humor/absurdity. Clever boy he is. My take on the movie appears above- just saw it last night.
How can have like it when I did not see it?
I was speaking of QT in general.
Dreams having logical continuty?
You must be a sort of a dreamer.
How are you.
I'm great, having just returned from two weeks in Brasil with several dvds of classic Brasilian films with which I was unacquainted.
Sometime I'm going to have to get back to Europe and I bet it's before you get over here...
You may win your bet.
Wright homes and buildings? The collections of all our great modern art museums? The Everglades? Fresh San Francisco sourdough bread? The Oregon coast? Mon ami, see your doctor, get proper sedation. I'm sure Vic would meet your flight at Kennedy!
Well I was in America.! I made the coast from SF to almost Mexico.
With a car.
Was beautiful.
wine country.
Oregon has some good cheese and bread makers, too. And, though truffles aren't in the category as the French, our wild mushrooms are non pareil.
Thank you. The same if you happen to lost yourself in Germany.
The Italian truffles are the best.
As for the bread hard to beat the German dark bread and / or the French white...
But who knows?
Thanks. Berlin, for the architecture, and Bavaria for the forests (we love hiking) are on our short list.
I agree with your bread likes. Brasil used to have terrific French-style bread but for some mysterious reason, it's really hard to find these days. The US had a revolution in bread-making, similar to its awakening to winemaking, years ago with the result that you can find great bread from small producers (just like in France) quite easily. It's been 11 years since my last French visit so I'm going on memory: we really need to visit France sometime soon, too. With our 8-year old, we've been waiting for her to mature a little bit so museums, cathedrals, and all the rest wouldn't be lost upon her.
Berlin? For the Sony Architectures?
I will send you my friend Anita who is not only a dentist ( horror ) but also was raised in the capital.
I will meanwhile drink a little Riesling in the place where Goethe did his Schhoppen...
Now bring Victor along and we will make an in France and later in G.
Leave your estranged wife behind.
"The Hangover" in mind. Been there, done that. I enjoy traveling with the wife far more than "stag."
Berlin: the Foster-designed Reichstag. The Pinacotek and other museums along the river (canal?). And many others.
I'm unfamiliar with Sony but I'll Google.
I'm familiar with Bretagne and the Loire; next, I'd like to see some of the mountain regions and the Dardogne. Of course, I'd never visit France w/out at least a 4 or 5 days for Paris.
That's a beautiful part of our country. I spent 30 years in California. There is so much more. Come for a visit.
-Wendell
Thank you.
I must visit Victor.
Maybe I will made it in this life time.
That destination wouldn't be on my itinerary but visit anyway. :-)
-Wendell
See you later, then...
I loved it and and consider it his best. So, there! :-)
-Wendell
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Wendell, history lesson is there, albeit not apparent. At the very end of the movie the usual disclaimer says that some characters are based on actual people.
Landa striking deal with American command can be considered as a metaphor for Gehlen, Arthur Rudolph or any of 10 000 Nazi war criminals who got whitewashed biographies in Operation Overcast (see "Good German") and were settled in the U.S. of A. never paying for their crimes. Essentially, denazification was a joke, most of Nazi who did not escape to U.S. were pardoned in 1948, even the biggest one found guilty at the Nuremberg tribunal. That's where reference to taking off their Nazi uniforms and getting luxury home in Nantucket.
Official history taught in schools (Nazis being punished) is not based on historical facts, and is no different from the version depicted in Basterds, a wishful thinking.
Kudos to Tarantino for saying it loud.
I served aboard ship in the US Navy, 1963-68. In the electronics repair shop I was assigned to, I worked alongside PO1 Horst Anders, a former Nazi foot soldier, continuing his military career with us. He did time enough to earn a full retirement with honorable discharge.
Nice guy, if a little short of humor. And smart. He could repair most any ship communication equipment in service at that time.
Was he a Nazi? The vast majority of German soldiers were not.
-Wendell
Was that his intent? In the one interview I've seen he didn't mention it.
Again, anyone who goes to the film expecting historical accuracy will be disappointed.
-Wendell
it's amazing how Tarentino can get you laughing, or at least smiling at the most unlaughable things.
(nt)
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Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
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