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I was hoping the creator of SPR eventually came to his senses... apparently he loves his bank account more than he knows good style. His latest opus is just must more of the same crap... except worse. It is truly unwatchable unless you are in that particular "crap watching" mood... which I sometimes have... but even for those moments it is tolling.
Talk about no common sense and artistic development at the five-year old level... here is the riddle... a young soldier visits a nice local girl and her family, and is offered to spend the night there. He is alone in his room... guess what happens? I will let Patrick take the first shot! :)
If you can - avoid like a clap.
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.....the budget was huge,(250 mil right?) certainly it did not go to the mostly no-name "stars" of this series. I think it went to explosions and vintage military machinery rental and extras.
I felt like they shot hundreds of hours of footage and then had problems figuring out which ten hours (or so) to include in the final cut. I stopped watching after episode three. For once Viktor and I agree on something non Hi-Fi related.
ET
Question "Authority", the mainstream media sucks - Go Independent and hold BOTH parties accountable instead of just the other guys!
I'll continue to watch but I agree I've been pretty disappointed with the presentation. BOB seemed much better but as suggested below, maybe the Pacific conflict does not lend itself so well to "hollywood"-style conflicts.
Ok ok, you pretty well nailed it. After becoming a fan of BOB--loved the lead acting, the battle episodes and the real stories that formed the arc of the series, I had high-ish hopes for The Pacific.
Unfortunately it is shockingly bad in every describable way from acting to directing. Even the lavish island sets could have been more cleanly filmed. There is no convincing acting and even if there were it could not have saved such a mess.
The tacky news reel footage and brief comments by the real vets are done a great disservice by what comes after. I made it through the first four episodes and that was it. Next to this, Eastwood's 2 part rendering of part of the Pacific conflict looks absolutely authentic
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was dreadful. They sucked the life out of the fight on Pelelu. Sigh.....
A very clunkily directed episode.
The US role in the Pacific war was quite fragmented. Unlike the B of B where one regiment essentially fought through the entire US involvement in Europe, no one person or regiment in the Pacific was engaged in every operations. The jungle warfare essentially was a solitary battle where few soldiers could even see let alone grasp the overall nature of the battle. Casualties were so high that after every operations the fighting units had to be pulled back to regroup and retrain.
As such, attempting to tell the story of the war in the Pacific is extremely difficult from a first person narrative. One of the sources used, Sledge, IIRC had written a sensitive although horrific account of his experiences. Still since he served for only two island campaigns, IIRC, his one account can not capture the totality of the war in the Pacific.
Perhaps that is why the Pacific War has largely been ignored by Hollywood film makers. Most Americans and Europeans like their heroes clean cut and to be super men. They like "Hollywood" endings, when the heroes come triumphantly marching home. Many, if not the most of the Pacific War vets, suffered from what we call today PTS. Sledge certainly suffered from it. Fighting an unknown enemy using rules totally unfamiliar to the West, often unseen, and one which accepted fighting to the death, fighting in an environment which was a grueling as fighting the enemy takes a hell of a lot from your corn fed soldier.
You seem to want a nice fairy tale development and plot. Sorry, life in the Pacific did not follow such Euro ideas of war.
Stu
PS. Are you implying that sex never happened in Europe? Read the accounts of the Russian soldiers after the fall of Berlin. Is rape preferable?
I should humbly point out that in no way did I even attempt to demean the the fact that Sledge only served on two island campaigns. IIRC the typical casualty count on every island was shocking high: far higher than the 20 percent figure used in the European theater before pulling back regiments for regrouping and replenishing. In the Pacific, you had to be basically disabled or have won the fight in order to be pulled out. Take those flag raisers at Iwo Jima: three, or was it four, were killed after the photo, which did not mean that the fighting was over.
Add to that, some of the most devastating battles were judged in hindsight to be unnecessary. Some were even argued in the American high command even at the time to be useless (Peleliu, for example). At Guadacanal, US troops were abandoned, essentially, by the US Navy once the Japanese Imperial fleet showed up. It is definitely not a pretty picture.
Even Stephen Ambrose, who wrote the Band of Brothers, was open about admitting that finding a regiment that served successfully throughout the European theater, fighting in almost every major battle was a stroke of luck.
That both series are based on personal experiences shows the disparity of kind of war waged on the two fronts. On one front, the individual role in the general scope of things could readily be seen. On the other, one simply fought for survival. They fought for a tiny scrap of land, fighting both environment and the enemy. There were no real breakthroughs: there was no decisive tactical movements which dislodged the enemy. No one could retreat very far: it was killed or be killed:win or die. It was simply a brutal slug fest.
fsd
I have seen far worse movies, but they were not pretentious.
I need to watch Clueless tonight.
and delivers exactly that.
It's like a lot of these made for USA 'dramas' in this sense.
I had high hopes for 'The Pacific' and gave it a chance but it really is a pretty sad bit of programming.
J.B.
Hmmm-- Sad to hear Victor-it opens in Australia tonight on National TV.
Mind you I felt B of B's meandered in later episodes ,but more than made up by the Bastogne and German Tank in the Village Parts--the latter I felt was oustanding and gripping
They shot the bulk of The P up here in North Queensland-- I was part of the team that was assigned to teach the Actors/ Main Crew-- Scuba Diving-- they seemed a down to earth bunch.
Des
The father comes and wants to sleep with the young boy?
That must be an Italian film.
the whole family, farm animals included.
Vive le Marquis!
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rest of me to Ludovine.
Ludo, who?
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