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In Reply to: RE: Like Israel, Iran has a thriving and excellent art film industry. Prejudice against a country's posted by tinear on January 07, 2011 at 11:10:03
Some of their films are interesting, but I have not seen single one that would elevate itself to the truly high level.
Even more important is the question - what is Israel doing in the discussion of Iranian cinema?
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of Israeli film. I also thought the 3-short stories of, "Yellow Asphalt," very good.
...thriving movie industry?
Their volume is small, their quality is unpredictable, some films are good, none is excellent as far as I can remember. And there is most definitely no Israeli La Strada as of yet.
the three best from any country that springs to mind during this period in history.
I understand what many are praising as a "classic," an Israeli film about a tank crew that I've not seen, may provide the unassailable film pinnacle you're referencing.
re-enforces the truth about the excellence of Israeli cinema.
It's really sad when some folk deny the truth of the merits and beauty of art simply because of their prejudices/ignorance and/or when the art in question inconveniently clashes with their politics/world view.
J.B.
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He would then be responsible for the state of the whole Kirgizian cinema... a task better avoided, me telling you! :)
before the Ducks game, what the differences are between "putz," "schlemiel," and "schmuck."
It's the only language I've heard that has the same guttural characteristics and gives one the physical speech pleasure as Portuguese as spoken by cariocas (hey, you make me look up Kirzig!).
For starters.
J.B.
From Elia Suleiman, a Palestinian Israeli.
In a few theaters now, also vailable from IFC In Theaters On Demand if your cable/sat network carries it.
It sucked. I didn't think a "war" film could be worse than Jacob's Ladder until I saw Waltz with Bashir.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
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A young girl's perspective lends itself to a stylized animation. Waltz with Bashir was something much different. It was creepy had a more nuanced agenda that did not do justice to the plight of IDF soldiers in Israel. And it showed real footage at the end, unlike Persepolis.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
...true, the filmmakers couldn't make Persepolis as a live action movie in Iran. But they could have made it somewhere else with live action. If they'd wanted to. But why would they?
Persepolis the movie is based on Marjane Satrapi's famous series of graphic novels of the same name, and since both she and co-director/co-writer Vincent Parronaud are prominent graphic artists/cartoonists (they shared a studio at one time), they chose animation as their film medium - both in homage to the original novels and because they felt it was the best expressive means by which to translate Persepolito the screen.
"...true, the filmmakers couldn't make Persepolis as a live action movie in Iran. But they could have made it somewhere else with live action. If they'd wanted to. But why would they?"It's not a big mystery why expatriate Iranians aren't lining up to provoke the mullahs. Even if they're not concerned about their own safetly, expatriates have relatives who still live in Iran. It's a bit naive of you to think an Iranian can show his face in a movie critical of Iranian leadership and there will be no repurcussions for him or his family.
As for the animation--that's not what made Persepolis a good movie. Obviously it was an attempt to bring the graphic books to the screen, but it's the underlying story and yearning for freedom in the face of repression that resonates with the viewer.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
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Yes, of course expatriates worry about family and former associates back in Iran.
But criticizing the regime is criticism whether it's done in live action or animation. Ya worry no matter what the medium.
Ya think the mullahs were OK with Persepolis cuz it was animated?? No...not from the protests they lodged with presenters and embassies all over the world where it was shown. Do you think the fact that Persepolis was animated softened the hard liner's ire toward Marjane Satrapi?
I stand by my statement that Satrapi "could" have made as a live action pic somewhere with some actors if that's what the she had really wanted to do - she lives in France after all. But SHE DID NOT so choose. She chose to make the film of her famous *graphic* novel in her own medium as they best way to tell that particular story.
BTW, Satrapi is currently working on her second film, an adpation of another of her graphic novels, this time in live action.
Question: Did you always plan for Perepolis to be an animated film rather than live action?
Marjane Satrapi: " Yes, I think we'd have lost the universal appeal of the storyline. With live-action, it would have turned into a story of people living in a distant land who don't look like us. At best, it would have been an exotic story, and at worst, a "Third-World" story.
The [graphic] novels have been a worldwide success because the drawings are abstract, black-and-white. I think this helped everybody to relate to it, whether in China, Israel, Chile, or Korea, it's a universal story. Persepolis has dreamlike moments, the drawings help us to maintain cohesion and consistency, and the black-and-white (I'm always afraid colour may turn out to be vulgar) also helped in this respect, as did the abstraction of the setting and location. Vincent and I thought the challenge was all the more interesting for this and exciting from an artistic, aesthetic standpoint."
From an interview 2007...politics didn't have anything to do with the selection of medium.
to the blind is a waste of time as can be seen from his silence.
There are some who have read (and seen the animated version of) Persepolis and missed what is truly at the heart of it, that being the stories universality.
J.B.
very young women, is like. Pahahi's film is a classic, an exceptionally insightful and humorous take, though with a strong barb attached.
There also is a very powerful Iranian film about a woman attempting to gain a divorce from a miserable husband. And on and on, but you have a closed mind so what's the point of telling you about them? You'd dismiss Solzhenitsyn because he was Russian.
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