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Got my set, and by pure coincidence in mail from Netflix came another war documentary - "World War II: Behind Closed Doors: Disc 1"
I watched both, that and the first episode of W@W.
Turns out, I have seen W@W before, probably more than once, long ago, but it was still interesting. At first the narration seemed too skimpy, jumping too much, more poetic than informative, but eventually it settled into reasonably dry documentary style, although even then a person without already firm knowledge of that part of the history would most likely miss some key story elements. Things like the destruction of SA took perhaps just 30 seconds of screen time, for instance.
The other film deals with the same subject, but very differently, and provides an extremely important insight, so I strongly recommend it too.
The sub-story on slaughter of Polish officers is chilling, and continuing our Films discussion, I would strongly suggest Wajda's Katyn for perhaps the most horrific account of the events.
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The path to Hitler started a long time before 1932. Germany had wanted their "Place in the Sun" for several generations prior to WWI. The ending of the war, the ruinous "peace" treaty imposed on Germany, the incompetence of the Wiemar Republic all had more to to with Hitler's rise than the stock market crash and the depression. Germany was well on the road to depression before 1929-30. Hitler was canny enough to appeal to German pride and ego to build his power base.
Best, Ross
One interesting bit from the first episode was how Hitler used his Stimulus Bill to revive the economy. Makes you wonder...
If so, did you like it better than the standard def? Also, what do you think of Lanzman's "Shoah?"
Some people here warned against the BR version, to me that obviously was not a concern as I don't have a player. The standard definition one has more than acceptable quality, as most of the screen time it is old documentary footage you are watching.
Both Hitler and Roosevelt adopted Keynesian economic principles to revive their respective economies. Max Webber studied Keynes extensively and was an early economic adviser to Hitler. Guns or butter; the same economic principles but vastly different outcomes.
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Ross
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inarguably was a critical factor. Or do you care to argue the Great Depression had nothing to do with the rise of the previously minor figure of Hitler?
Today, many of the problems in the EU are the result of their governments and banks investing in American stocks and securities that turned out to be bogus.
Yes, my friend, our virulent form of capitalism is responsible for some very bad results. If you'd care to discuss this further, perhaps you'd care to saunter over to "Outside."
I sneer as I slap your face with my Italian leather glove and await your arrival there.
a place where you will find peace, love, and sympathy for you troubled condition...
Due to nature of the film under discussion, I think there is definitely room for some political arguments, provided we stay with the subject and period and don't drag Bush into it.
I do not think our Depression was in any way responsible for Hitler's raise to power. There were dozens of specifically local German issues and reasons for that. The WWI results as well as the selfish games the European powers each played, were to greatest extend responsible for Hitler gaining strength and momentum.
There was also no chance of a fascist leader appearing in the US, all its Depression suffering notwithstanding.
in very relative obscurity, completely is unrelated to the desperate economic conditions that then paralleled his rise?
And you then would argue, I surmise, that the collapse of the American stock market had little impact on the German economy that had been in good health before it?
Both conditions, completely unrelated?
Go ahead.
You and semuta put your brains together.
I'll only use one lobe.
The inability to make an intelligent peace treaty with Germany at the end of W.W one.
The US president back then ( Wilson ) seems t have make serious Mistakes, if I remember well.
If you guess, "war reparations!," you win a prize.
If you say Germany's economy overcame those until the Great Depression, which it did, you get a bottle of DRC.
You still has my address? Now more seriously it take a lot more for the Nazism to come along..
Nazis and no WWII. Set and setting.... and player.
You can not turn the clock back.
What germany has done is not to be excuse.
Yes, I remember his post, that is why I ordered a set. Fortunately, they go for reasonable prices... ain't no Avatar, after all.
I had forgotten that the narration on World at War is also superb (Attenborough/Olivier?) One or the other ( shoot me! )
"Katyn" is uploaded on YouTube with subtitles + is a great film ( ! )
GW
It is Olivier.
Looking back, I actually recommend watching the two films I mentioned in parallel - seeing the documentary footage and re-enactment of the same events side-by-side created a very interesting effect.
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