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Since we're having a "best scifi" thread below, let's have a best
westerns thread.
I don't know whether these are the best, but they are my favorites of
the ones I've seen (forewarned: I'm a Peckinpah fan).
The Wild Bunch
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
The Ballad of Cable Hogue
The Proposition (this is an aussie flick, still qualifies imho)
The Good The Bad The Ugly (best Eastwood flick ever)
Silverado (this film has flashes of brilliance and true banality, but
overall it's a good one).
Once Upon a Time in the West (too clean and neat, but some great
individual scenes and the proper moral ambiguity).
One of my overarching criteria for a good western is that it have a
gritty, grubby, nasty, dirty, morally ambiguous feeling to it. The
characters cannot be clean, wear clean clothes constantly, and look like
they just had fresh makeup applied; the towns need to look like they
were made from cheap lumber and thrown together quickly (which they
were); the script needs to depict the moral qualities of the era, which
were not pretty at best. Peckinpah excels at this sort of thing.
I do not like John Wayne or Clint Eastwood, as neither of them can act
and they always play the same character from film to film.
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Underappreciated.
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" Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination." -Michael McClure
cowboys, mustanging, rodeos + Marilyn Monroe
GW
My favorites, in no particular order...The Searchers
My Darling Clementine
The Big Country (Best western score EVER)
Red River
Shane
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Ride The High Country
The Magnificent Seven
McCabe & Mrs. Miller
Silverado
Lonesome Dove
The Claim
Ride With The Devil (Director's Cut, Criterion)
The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford
True Grit (2010)I will watch any John Ford western with pleasure.
I'm looking forward to seeing 2010's Meek's Cutoff, with Bruce Greenwood, Michelle Williams and Shirley Henderson.
If you liked The Proposition you might give The Claim a try. (It's The Mayor Of Casterbridge transplanted to the Canadian Rockies - seriously.)
I've tried but I cannot like Once Upon A Time In The West, in fact, I find it unwatchable. (And this is from someone who loves Tarkovsky, Greenaway and Lynch.)
Edits: 03/23/11
I'd love a sequel.
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Always worth revisiting.
J
... it may take me a few more years to stomach up to viewing "There Will Be Blood" again, but for capturing the latter day West, I believe this one gets it right.
Then it is nice to be reminded what it is to be a "Human Being" after watching "Little Big Man".
Nice segue from The Graduate, too.
Felt like "Benjamin Does The Wild West."
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...many already posted.
I'll add a few favorites, in no particular order.....
Deadwood
The Stalking Moon
Ravenous
Bad Day At Black Rock
The Professionals
Viva Zapata
Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid
Hombre
The Quick And The Dead
Nevada Smith
Giant
The Life And Times of Judge Roy Bean
Dances With Wolves
A Man Called Horse
The Man From Snowy River
Lone Star
The Misfits
Little Big Man
The Hired Hand
Tombstone
The Fastest Gun Alive
Last Train From Gun Hill
J
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.. Lonesome Dove is brilliant. I didn't mention it because others had, already.
Agree on Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid and Little Big Man. Also agree with previous mention of Blazing Saddles. Will add: Jeremiah Johnson, McCabe and Mrs. Miller and Support Your Local Sheriff.
Dean.
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reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
The Big Country
Once Upon a Time in the West
Blazing Saddles
Winchester 73
High Noon
The Searchers
Unforgiven
True Grit (I'd put both the original and the remake on my list)
Big Jake
Lonesome Dove
Shane
The Magnificent Seven
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ONE EYED JACKS needs to be restored in Vistavision in the same way SPARTACUS and LAWRENCE OF ARABIA was restored. Marlon Brando directed it and reflects his genius. John Ford is THE definitive western creator as far as I'm concerned. Ray
"The gift of imagination is a gift of the Gods imparted to a few who receive innumerable kicks in the a$$ their entire life." LeCorbusier (Edward Jenneret)
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Hands down.
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I'll add a couple more to the "Peckinpah" list:
Pat Garrett + Billy the Kid
Ride the High Country
The Deadly Companions
+ while its not strictly a film: "Streets of Laredo" Larry McMurtry scripted
High Noon, Gary Cooper/Grace Kelly
The 3 Amigos/Blazing Saddles ( so silly, so funny! )
GW
I'd even put True Grit (2010 version) up for consideration.
Yes, Treasure of the Sierra Madre needs to be on the list, noted below.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
...thinking of Treasure Of Sierre madre as a "western". Same for The Misfits. I'm not sure why but my brain wants an arbitrary cut-off date of 1900 or thereabouts.
For the same reason, great movies like No Country For Old Men and Lone Star aren't on my best westerns list either, even though they take place in the "west", albeit the modern west.
(They CAN act - they just have limited range.)
My list of best westerns, in no particular order:
- The Searchers
- Rio Bravo
- Red River
- The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
- The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
- Unforgiven
- Winchester 73
- My Darling Clementine
- Stagecoach (1939)
- The Outlaw Josey Wales
- Fort Apache
My list of overrated westerns:
- Ride the High Country
- Dances with Wolves
- Once Upon a Time in the West
- True Grit (either version)
- Open Range
- High Noon
- The Magnificent Seven
The absolute worst "A" western I ever saw:
- The Rare Breed
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Phil
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You don't want to be in a down mood for this duo though.
These are two great modern westerns and both are underrated.
Maybe the single best western ever made.
But you need to see the Yogi Bear version:
"Lock up when you're done and don't touch the piano."
-Greg House
...the pace of this film intrigues me.
A few others I like as well
The Searchers
Unforgiven
The Ox-Box Incident
Once Upon a TIme in the West
The Shootist
Posse
And of course, Blazing Saddles
Part of one the greatest years in cinema history.
Baba-Booey to you all!
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It's the 'Lawrence of Arabia' of Westerns.
"Lock up when you're done and don't touch the piano."
-Greg House
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An awesome cast telling a classic Western story.
J.B.
Gorgeous and iconic movie.
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Cogito Ergo Credo
also, to mention: Missouri Breaks
pretty entertaining but not as good as say, "The Magnificent Seven".
Or "The Man who Shot Liberty Valance".
Your dislike of Eastwood and Wayne (I share that dislike...) is
unfortunate because it left out "Unforgiven" and a BUNCH of
great John Ford films.
"Seraphim Falls" is a damn satisfying "Western".
Too bad a "Deadwood" film was never made.
" Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination." -Michael McClure
A veritable genre sandwich.
True Grit (new one), Unforgiven (despite your dislike to Eastwood).
Cogito Ergo Credo
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Shane
Winchester 73
Treasure of the Sierrra Madre
Red River
One Eyed Jacks
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