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In Reply to: RE: I have some massive problems with Full Metal Jacket posted by Doug Flynn on July 02, 2011 at 17:02:53
plenty of characters in the film, Joker was merely one, though he was the central one. He certainly was as central as was Dave in 2001 (some argue Hal was the true central character of that segment).
Few films I've ever seen have conveyed the anguish, the horror, of war as did FMJ.
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The dilemma of rescuing a wounded comrade, and that meant certain death or injury for the rescuer, was one of the most indelible and moving scenes I've ever witnessed. Add to that the great skills of Kubrick that enhanced the power...
Back to the poor argument about central characters being key to Kubrick: what of "Dr. Strangelove?" And "Lolita?"
The fact is, Kubrick's greatness has nothing to do with his portrayal of characters; in fact, a well-worn criticism of Stanley is precisely THAT: his superficial treatment of them, subjugating them to directorial pyrotechnics.
Also, Kubrick's characters seldom, if ever, speak brilliantly. He didn't care about dialogue, pure and simple. He also didn't care for powerful performances: actors were stage pieces (Paths of Glory being an exception; note that Stanley picked a Hollywood hack to star in"Barry Lyndon"). Again, 2001 is ALL cliché. I can't think of a Kubrick film where there is witty, brilliant dialogue, with the possible exception of "Lolita;" that, however, was because of Nabokov!
The brilliance of FMJ precisely is its originality. It doesn't follow the typical rah-rah war film nor does it tread the anti-war path: it is an original take on the genre. It shows how war debilitates men from the inside, unlike Paths of Glory that showed how the command structure led to inhumanity. In FMJ, we see how the corrupting influence of life-and-death pressure leads "free" men to inhuman acts, voluntarily. It is a highly disturbing film with no positive "message." In this, it returns to one of the central questions raised in 2001: is there some deep flaw inherent in humans?
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Although the buildings were too tall and densely packed for a Vietnamese city it was close enough. There really was Euro-style building-to-building fighting there.
Kubrick, unfortunately, would never leave the UK and that led to some inaccuracies in backgrounds. Close enough, though.
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