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This reminded me of Beaufort - another Israeli war movie with no actual point (nt)

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Doug Flynn

In Reply to: RE: From Israel comes "Lebanon:" an Israeli tank crew finds itself lost almost posted by tinear on May 16, 2012 at 08:36:37

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those are the good Israeli movies. The bad ones do have a point - Jazz Inmate 09:28:42 05/20/12 (2)
Lebanon was technically very well done (acting, cinematography, sound design) but when it comes to "the point" I agree with you 100%. There wasn't one. And given the inability of Israeli filmmakers to take a 30,000 ft view, that's a good thing. Israeli movies are getting better but still are not great. Avoid Amos Gitai movies at all costs. What a waste of talent.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
- You seem to think the end of serious film is propaganda. Gitai is a brilliant auteur. - tinear 08:50:41 05/21/12 (1)
  He is critical of his country, Israel, as are many good Israelis. Gitai's father was a victim of Hitler's intellectual purges and was forced to flee.
  - Here's one of his toughest efforts. (Open in New Window)
  - You're probably referring to this Gitai film - Jazz Inmate 06:19:55 05/22/12 (0)
    Kadosh? Kippur? Don't you think it's weird that the only enemy you ever see in Gitai films are other Israelis? Even Lebanon showed that not to be the case.
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    We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
    - Amos Gitai films (Open in New Window)
"No point?" Hmmmm... What would you say is the point of "Paths of Glory?" nt - tinear 08:14:32 05/17/12 (5)
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- Paths of Glory had plenty of points - Doug Flynn 17:55:40 05/17/12 (4)
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  - You're confusing, now: character development has nothing to do with your - tinear 09:16:54 05/18/12 (0)
    original point.
    As far as bureaucracy, you obviously didn't see "Lebanon." The tank crew repeatedly were told not to leave the area; they were told to trust in the Phalangists. The film also exposed the myth of the "superior officer."
    The Israeli films, of course, had exactly the same "theme" as "Paths of Glory:" war is cruel, brutal, and senseless and the most devastating decisions are made by men who view the lives of their soldiers as pieces on a chessboard.
  - How much did you "develop" today? - Victor Khomenko 17:59:32 05/17/12 (2)
    That "character development" thing has been overplayed by 10^16 times. People do not have to "develop" to be interesting. It is all just some dumb notion from the Appreciation of Movies 101. If normal people are too boring to you then you need to examine yourself.
    - You must spend a lot of time watching shitty Chuck Norris and Sylvester Stallone movies (nt) - Doug Flynn 20:21:38 05/17/12 (1)
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      - How much is "a lot"? - Victor Khomenko 09:05:43 05/18/12 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: You must spend a lot of time watching shitty Chuck Norris and Sylvester Stallone movies (nt) posted by Doug Flynn on May 17, 2012 at 20:21:38
        
        You are wrong, of course. I can think of quite a few Norris' movies where his "character" "develops". In fact, "character development" is one of the regular cliche's in bad films.
        
        I would much rather take viewer's development. Something that comes through brain activity, and not primitive writing.
Pretty good review. * - mr grits 21:23:22 05/16/12 (0)
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