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best film standards?
Editing?
Cinematography?
Writing?
Acting?
Just wondering because TV gets a bazillion more responses.
Perhaps y'all think you're immortal?
Myself, everyday could be the last so I want to watch the very best humankind has produced.
Okay, go back to drinking your Coors.
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Some are, some aren't. I hope I'm doing something more productive than watching a film or tv program on my last day but one never knows.
-Wendell
In six hours you can tell a better story than being limited to only two. This is why mini-series are so special. They have more time to develop everything.
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I think that some TV shows are approaching the quality of movies as the latter goes down in quality to satiate greed, or whatever.
... there are different rules for each.
It's like comparing the short story with a novel.
You know the answer.
the miniseries was darned close to the book, and much better than the film.
Not every minute of TV (or a movie for that matter) has to be better than the next (although by a lot of your posts it seems you feel this way maybe?). I can't worry about the small stuff.
I don't watch mini-series too often, but if I do I'm not trying to convince myself or anybody else that it was better than something on the silver screen. Heck, I watch the same Seinfeld episodes over and over and still enjoy most of them.
I think TV gets more responses because;
1 - It's on TV for everybody to see without renting something specific
2 - It's easier to watch a little bit of TV than to dedicate a 2 hour time slot to a movie.
Don't worry, it's fluff, all of it. :)
Coors? No thanks. If I'm going to drink beer it'll be a Heiny, or maybe a GD. Tonight Argentine Tango and then some nice red wine.
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So, I don't waste time jacking off over this sort of fake distinction.
No time wasted yanking my dick over best film standards, editing, cinematography, writing, acting, or giving a shit if something is made for TV or the cineplex.
"Myself, everyday could be the last so I want to watch the very best humankind has produced."
Congrats, so please go troll where the very best humans hang out and leave the rest of us alone, then.
Maybe live your life as though any troll may be your last.
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Deadwood was not a mini-series but a very good, maybe the best TV Western.
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I take it a complete story arc is not one of your high minded expectations.
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Cancelled to make way the fanged set.
You can just leave off at Sheriff Bullock in Deadwood and pick it right back up with Sheriff Givens in Justified!
Same dude!
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Although a well realized ending would have been appreciated.
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Several poster are mentioning titles of great series that aren't mini's, so that begs asking, are you asking just about "mini-series?" Since the minis are more comparable to features in quality, it's worth splitting hairs. My personal feeling about the creative and technical differences between the two competing media; Features play in a bigger room, and ask for cash at the door. The best of both are splendid. The differences are in the audiences.
As good as some series are, NONE of them raises to even knee-level of what we consider the best work of cinema - there are no series that one would put on the same plane with the works of Bergman, Fellini and other giants, there is never that level of philosophical depth, human study, etc, found in the series.There has never been... there shall never be... made for TV Persona or La Dolce Vita.
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Yes you are absolutely right - Centennial, Into the West, Broken Trail, The Dove mini-series are all way better than that European crap to American audiences.
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Sure they don't approach the epic ontological questions of great films but strictly for tinear's query don't those raise a blip on the Radar?
I think I agree with you. Two points; First, If the past markets had the same limits of targeted audience size and today's market share, then I think the filmmakers would have had similar potential for quality. I'm comparing today's production and distribution environment, not the great films and filmmakers of the past. Second, When your talking about today's world market, I think there's little difference in quality. The existing great talent (that gets hired and produced) will create similar quality films. When a creator catches lightning in a bottle, it is obviously timeless.
I think "serious" films and TV shows address very different needs and should not be considered in the same context. The best shows can indeed excel in many technical aspects, sometimes writing, etc, but they still ain't films.
Bottom line is - I watch the shows as fillers, never as main attraction.
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Entertainment is entertainment. If you think you are going to take up my time, it must compete with all other forms entertainment, or I will change the area of my focus.
> Victor Khomenko films and TV shows address very different needs <
The need to be entertained, exactly the same thing. Give me a good Western and I will watch it. The longer the better. 15 minutes on Youtube like Back to Fort Russell http://youtu.be/4KMytKxAIE0, or 60 hours of Deadwood on HBO. I will watch it twice. I don't even care if they speak English. When I am in it, the experience is all encompassing. I really liked The Tonto Women, as good as any Western in any form. I don't see your big difference except some take longer than others to tell the story. My time, and my need for amusement are still the same.
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Mulholland drive
Boredwalk Empire
The Wire
Boss
Breaking Bad
Friday Night Lights
Mad Men (partially, I find the direction clunky at times)
The Killing
Deadwood
Rome
Band of Brothers
I Claudius
Lonesome Dove
Roots
Downton Abbey
The acting, direction, storyline, cinematogegraphy, are, overall, all up to movie standards, and the continuing stories could not possibly be told in a two hour movie, not even close.
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Very well acted BBC production, with great sets and best of all it stays true to the Dickens characters. No, it's not as good as Sopranos, but nothing else on TV comes close except Mad Men in my opinion.
Surprise appearance by X-Files Gillian Anderson who turns in a good performance as one of the key characters.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
and excel at all you mention just as a superior film does over the standard issued dreck.
There's no reason worthy art can't transcend whatever medium it is produced in or for.
And today WON'T be my last day because I'm NOT dying before "Breaking Bad" is fini.
Dammit!
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I end up comparing almost ever episode to the week's fare of theatrical movie(s) I went to, DVD movie(s) I rented, and HBO, etc. movies I saw that week, and that week's episode of BB often comes up winners. Simply amazing and the best comntinuing series ever IMHO.
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I liked the Twilight Zone (script, cinematography, acting, etc.) and Star Trek Next Generation.
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