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Like most other cults, that one is superficial... but strong

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In Reply to: RE: I'm in heaven or shortly will be so. "Pulp Fiction" is being shown at the local multiplex! Wow! posted by tinear on December 06, 2012 at 17:36:27

I don't like Tarantino... he is definitely not without a talent, but he constantly uses shockers to keep the viewer interested, so I am not sure he would ever be able to put together a quiet story like, say, Forbidden Games, that would keep the audience riveted without resorting to cheap tricks.

I think cheap is the key words when talking about his art.

Follow Ups:

"Happiness" by Todd Solondz is a "quiet story" by all accounts - what do you think about it? - carcass93 10:31:53 12/07/12 (15)
Does it meet your criteria of greatness?

I can tell you right away - it exceeds mine.
- "Happiness," simply, is brilliant. "But I'm not laughing," has become a - tinear 16:16:08 12/07/12 (0)
  common line among our family and friends.
- I liked 'Welcome to the Dollhouse' moreso - Plinko 13:52:58 12/07/12 (3)
  What is your thoughts on that one?
  - Excellent as well, but #2 for me, Storytelling being #3. - carcass93 20:58:27 12/08/12 (2)
    Part 1 of Storytelling, "Fiction", is something I couldn't get out of my head for quite some time. Scene with "Say it - n..., f... me hard!", being told by professor to his female student, is alone worth the time.
    
    His films after Storytelling are "tame" in comparison, however style is still easily recognizable.
    - I guess I am sentimental towards - Plinko 17:54:36 12/10/12 (1)
      Dawn "Weinerdog" Weiner as it was the first of his films I saw. Happiness is obviously a much more ambitiious effort. Storytelling fell flat for me...and a lot of it seemed a bit contrived if my memory of my thoughts on this one is correct.
      
      I don't think I have seen any of his films after Storytelling.
      - Yeah... I'm always a bit sad when I see present-day Heather Matarrazzo. N/T - carcass93 09:05:07 12/11/12 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I guess I am sentimental towards posted by Plinko on December 10, 2012 at 17:54:36
        
        N/T
- Geez, I don't even know if I have any such criteria. - Victor Khomenko 11:23:59 12/07/12 (9)
  I don't recall seeing that film, maybe I did, I don't know, but I have to tell you, I have an extremely strong distaste for American films made by the under-50 directors. Not that above-50 Americans are guaranteed to make good films, but lately I had the serious misfortune to see several more or less recent pieces of crap by young directors, and without an exception they were pure stinky garbage, self-absorbed in their own significance, full of endless stupid superficial self-loving dialogue, sense of self-importance in every scene... and that awful, awful, awful American "music" - a constipated, strangled voice trying to tell me some story over a lame guitar. Seems like today 35 is an old adolescent. Solondz is just over that 50 mark, but the film's description tells me I would have to do with no dinner for a few days - don't think that is exactly the kind of a film my wife would appreciate. :)
  
  Edits: 12/07/12
  - Right you are about no dinner - however, the rest does not apply. - carcass93 11:46:00 12/07/12 (8)
    No self-loving dialogue, no sense of self-importance - and no music that I recall, so it either isn't there, or doesn't call attention to itself.
    
    Instead, what is there - pure, all-encompassing hatred and loathing for humanity in general and American society in particular, with not one character to feel any real sympathy for. Director, in this instance, is just a bystander, looking at all proceedings in utter disgust.
    
    Just the way I love it.
    - "not one character to feel any real sympathy for." Doesn't that describe this forum? - Victor Khomenko 12:30:44 12/07/12 (7)
      OK, so maybe grits gets some, as he blazes the trail through all that mayhem, blood and kinky sex!
      - Grits for President! - tinear 16:17:32 12/07/12 (6)
        
        In Reply to: RE: "not one character to feel any real sympathy for." Doesn't that describe this forum? posted by Victor Khomenko on December 07, 2012 at 12:30:44
        
        Of the asylum?
        
        I've got a much better candidate - Victor Khomenko 16:26:00 12/07/12 (5)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Grits for President! posted by tinear on December 07, 2012 at 16:17:32
        
        Sorry grits, but you didn't shave your legs last time!
        
        My vote (Open in New Window)
        
        Bad girls have short shelf lives. nt - tinear 10:04:07 12/08/12 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I've got a much better candidate posted by Victor Khomenko on December 07, 2012 at 16:26:00
        
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        I too have been wondering where she disappeared after her "unsuccessful run". :) - Victor Khomenko 11:12:28 12/08/12 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Bad girls have short shelf lives. nt posted by tinear on December 08, 2012 at 10:04:07
        
        To be fair, she is still much pleasant to watch than most WT tenants.
        
        WT? White Trash? nt - tinear 08:02:50 12/10/12 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I too have been wondering where she disappeared after her "unsuccessful run". :) posted by Victor Khomenko on December 08, 2012 at 11:12:28
        
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        Oops... was meant to be the WH. nt - Victor Khomenko 12:03:03 12/10/12 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: WT? White Trash? nt posted by tinear on December 10, 2012 at 08:02:50
        
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        I hope you're kidding. You may not like their politics, but both adults in the WH appear - tinear 17:23:04 12/10/12 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Oops... was meant to be the WH. nt posted by Victor Khomenko on December 10, 2012 at 12:03:03
        
        honest, hard-working, successful (prior to political careers), and good parents.
        But, hey, this is a film forum.
I guess you don't appreciate early Russian abstract art, beginning with Malevich? - tinear 08:27:51 12/07/12 (2)
And you must detest Kandinsky?
Tarantino is different, but as earth-shaking. He's taken a trite genre, in this instance the noir or pulp fiction-themed film, and elevated it by brilliant story-telling, cinematography, editing. Must the subject matter of art be beauty or told in a beautiful way?
Punk rock. Graffiti art. Video art. Earth art.
All revolutionary impacts on the formal Academy of art critics and the public expectations of art.
- I liked Malevich when I was 17... it was hip then. No mo. - Victor Khomenko 11:11:26 12/07/12 (1)
  It was just an experiment, a concept, not art. Vasya Kandinsky I like, as one likes watching the kaleidoscope. What this has to do with a particular film - I am not sure. I never watched the PF from start to finish, just overlapping pieces many times, and I never had any desire to waste my two hours on it. In reality, you take away the dance scene (owned lock, stock and barrel by Travolta, not Tarantino) and the rest is just that - pulp.
  - No, not at all, Vic. PF has amazing dialogue, humor, and characters. Well, if you don't like it, you don't. nt - tinear 14:24:00 12/08/12 (0)
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