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In Reply to: RE: Oblivion... posted by mkuller on April 20, 2013 at 23:49:14
With you on your feelings on the movie and that I also can't be bothered to go to the movie theater too often.
SPOILERS...
Which part didn't make sense to you at the end? I think... it all added up.
I see the movie in short like this; alien force comes to suck the life out of the earth, to do so they destroy the majority of the population by damaging the moon. They create multiples of 2 clones (Cruise and his co-pilot who went to the force on a mission) to help them combat the few remaining humans by fixing any damaged droids. Two "Jacks" end up seeing his wife from before the apocalypse. #49 saves humanity by sacrificing himself, #52 ends up with his wife in Little Eden.
The only part that didn't really work I thought was how the life force/alien wouldn't have some sort of intuition that #49 was going to destroy it. And maybe the droids could have fixed the droids so they wouldn't have this little nagging problem of imperfect humans assisting.
I'd give it a 3 1/2 to 4 actually. It was different than expected; the love story was a large part of the movie, and that's OK.
Follow Ups:
...so it was aliens in the ship?
It looked like humans in suspened animation in those compartments on the ship so I assumed they were the ones who needed the water to stay alive.
If there were 1000s of clones, why did we only see those 2? I thought only #49 had flashbacks about his wife.
I thought the chemistry between Cruise and his wife was a big part of what kept you interested and involved.
But then I'm a big fan of the Jack Reacher books and I that was one of my favorite movies of last year even though Cruise is about 8" and 50lb short.
All replies IMO only.
"...so it was aliens in the ship? It looked like humans in suspended animation in those compartments on the ship so I assumed they were the ones who needed the water to stay alive."
It was humans; more of Jack and his co-pilot in case some get killed off. The water was a vital source the alien force needed for its survival.
"If there were 1000s of clones, why did we only see those 2? I thought only #49 had flashbacks about his wife."
Each had their respective area on earth to "protect". I would imagine they all had memories of her. But as only #49 and #52 ever saw Julia the others would have carried on thinking she was merely a dream. Now if years go by and another Jack or 5 see Julia... there may be a fight. :)
"I thought the chemistry between Cruise and his wife was a big part of what kept you interested and involved."
Absolutely. And she is pretty! Same girl from the previous Bond movie.
"But then I'm a big fan of the Jack Reacher books and I that was one of my favorite movies of last year even though Cruise is about 8" and 50lb short."
Heard of Jack Reacher, but never saw that one. Maybe soon.
... 1000s of Jack clones in the "Tet" as #49 makes his entrance. Recall when Morgan Freeman recounts the story of the takeover of Earth by the aliens that the army that actually does the work is composed of thousands and thousands of Jack clones. This was found to be very demoralizing to the citizens of earth: the enemy appeared to be an astronaut hero. We see the remnants of the invading army and/or a future clean-up army and/or technician replacements.
FWIW, I found the "Tet" to be a far too blatant ripoff of the STNG Borg thing. A simple tetrahedron vs a cube? Puhleeze.
Demoralizing the remnant.
Unsure of the Borg thing, never watched the Star Wars with borgs....
...STNG Borg was a space vessel/race/culture that traveled throughout the galaxy consuming planets for material and energy and assimilating the best qualities of encountered life forms while discarding the rest. The Borg's vessel was a huge cube capable of warp factors in excess of the Enterprise.
...you'll enjoy the Reacher movie much more if you read a couple of the books first.
The books are my favorites and I read a lot.
The thousands more clones inside were also general replacements. Remember Jack and Vicki talking about having 2 more weeks and their service is done; then they can go to the new place (Tet??, which is of course non-existent)? I assume "Sally" was aware they would all eventually have recollections of their pre-existence and start causing problems, so after a period of time they are killed off and another pair of clones are issued.
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