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The industry knew in 1978 that DVD would come in 1998?

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racerguy

In Reply to: RE: Laserdisc's competitor was DVD, which thoroughly kicked its butt once introduced posted by Jazz Inmate on August 31, 2007 at 13:00:08

You've got to be kidding.

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There was no such thing as laserdisc in 1978 - Jazz Inmate 13:48:45 08/31/07 (10)
Why not post 1969, for that matter.
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"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
- I guess the LaserDisc demonstration I attended at MyerEmco in Washington DC in early 1979 was imaginary - racerguy 16:07:47 08/31/07 (5)
  Thanks for clearing that up, Jazz. Whatever would we do without you?
  
  So, since (according to you) the product we were told was called "LaserDisc" didn't exist, what exactly was it that Pioneer reps were demonstrating that day, and why did they keep calling it "LaserDisc?"
  - You said 1978. I said 1980 (which incidently is when the format was actually first marketed as LaserDisc) - Jazz Inmate 16:25:06 08/31/07 (4)
    Now you say early 1979.
    
    Do I hear a "late 1979"?
    
    Going...going...DOA. It wasn't a feasible format and never had wide industry or consumer support.
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    - Do you understand the difference between "introduction" and "demonstration?" - racerguy 16:35:24 08/31/07 (3)
      Apparently not. Or, are you just grasping at straws again? If so, you're wasting your time. As Auph said, you are (once again) in the deep end without a life preserver.
      
      Jazz, no one ever claimed that Laserdisc became mainstream. Everyone is simply laughing at your statement that "the industry" didn't support it because they somehow knew back when Laserdisc first hit the market that DVD was coming. All you are doing by thrashing around and throwing out accusations and non sequiturs is making yourself look more ridiculous.
      - RE: Do you understand the difference between "introduction" and "demonstration?" - Jazz Inmate 16:44:02 08/31/07 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Do you understand the difference between "introduction" and "demonstration?" posted by racerguy on August 31, 2007 at 16:35:24
        
        Here is what I said, my exact words:
        Laserdisc's competitor was DVD, which thoroughly kicked its butt once introduced.
        And the industry knew that was coming and never fully got behind laserdisc.
        
        So what exactly is your problem with that?
        
        Please answer the question without misrepresenting what I said as you did above: > > Everyone is simply laughing at your statement that "the industry" didn't support it because they somehow knew back when Laserdisc first hit the market that DVD was coming. < <
        
        Tell me why YOU think the industry didn't support Laserdisc, and I'll bet it's exactly the same as mine, minus the semantic hurdles your mind can't seem to jump.
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        RE: Do you understand the difference between "introduction" and "demonstration?" - racerguy 17:13:38 08/31/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Do you understand the difference between "introduction" and "demonstration?" posted by Jazz Inmate on August 31, 2007 at 16:44:02
        
        > > Here is what I said, my exact words:
        Laserdisc's competitor was DVD, which thoroughly kicked its butt once introduced.
        And the industry knew that was coming and never fully got behind laserdisc.
        
        So what exactly is your problem with that? < <
        
        Here's my problem with that:
        
        So when exactly do you think "the industry" knew that DVD was coming? 1980? 1981? 1985?
        
        Jazz, Laserdisc was relegated to niche status almost from its inception. It was obvious that it would never break into the mainstream long before the concept of DVD was even a gleam in someone's eye.
        
        Your claim that "the industry knew [DVD] was coming and never fully got behind laserdisc" is simply ludicrous. Where do you come up with this stuff?
        
        Maybe it's best if I answer that with a question - Jazz Inmate 09:29:50 09/01/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Do you understand the difference between "introduction" and "demonstration?" posted by racerguy on August 31, 2007 at 17:13:38
        
        You don't think anyone in the industry could have possibly understood that they needed a more compact optical disc? That was like Jules Verne talking about SCUBA gear.
        Give me a break.
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        Edits: 09/01/07
- LOL! Jazz, why do you make this so easy: - Audiophilander 14:48:49 08/31/07 (3)
  By 1980 the term LaserDisc was being fully utilized if you want to get technical, but the optical videodisc system was designated Disco-Vision as early as 1969. In 1978 it was called DiscoVision (hyphen eliminated) and the discs were being marketed as Laser Videodiscs.
  
  Sorry dude, but you should've stuck in the shallows. You're in the deep end now and treadin' water; no offense, but you're way out of your depth:
  - Technically, it was called Laser Videodisc in '78, but it existed. Here's a clue, but sorry, no life preserver: (Open in New Window)
  - I was looking at wiki too, and stand by my statement: laserdisc did not exist in 1978 - Jazz Inmate 15:49:59 08/31/07 (2)
    It was not marketed (certainly not marketed as laserdisc) until 1980, and it never gained mass market appeal or penetration. And as for Racerguy's overarching point that the industry didn't know a better optical format was coming along or Jack's point that Laserdisc had "the entire industry behind it", those are both idiotic claims. MCA/Universal was the only studio where laserdisc had any real traction, and electronics companies, with the exception of Pioneer, were lukewarm at best to the format.
    Anyone can click wikipedia.com, auph. It doesn't mean you know anything.
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    Edits: 08/31/07
    - RE: I was looking at wiki too, and stand by my statement: laserdisc did not exist in 1978 - racerguy 16:39:08 08/31/07 (1)
      > > It was not marketed (certainly not marketed as laserdisc) until 1980, and it never gained mass market appeal or penetration. And as for Racerguy's overarching point that the industry didn't know a better optical format was coming along < <
      
      So, you are claiming that "the industry" knew in 1980 that a better optical format would come along in 1998, so they deliberately withheld support for Laserdisc, and allowed tape-based media to rule the market for 18+ years while waiting? That's...surreal.
      
      Jazz, what color is the sky in your world?
      - RE: I was looking at wiki too, and stand by my statement: laserdisc did not exist in 1978 - Jazz Inmate 16:56:53 08/31/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I was looking at wiki too, and stand by my statement: laserdisc did not exist in 1978 posted by racerguy on August 31, 2007 at 16:39:08
        
        > > So, you are claiming that "the industry" knew in 1980 that a better optical format would come along in 1998, so they deliberately withheld support for Laserdisc, and allowed tape-based media to rule the market for 18+ years while waiting? That's...surreal. < <
        
        That's surreal? Then what do you think happened during those years? We know Laserdisc did not have wide support. We know DVD killed it once and for all. That's not surreal. It's real. No one had a crystal ball, but obviously the concept that LaserDisc was a costly, cumbersome, clunky technology that would be supplanted by a more elegant technology was seized upon by many CE manufacturers and home video execs.
        
        > > Jazz, what color is the sky in your world? < <
        
        Blue.
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