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RE: 2 disc edition =1 for movie, 1 for extras.

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Jazz Inmate

In Reply to: RE: 2 disc edition =1 for movie, 1 for extras. posted by Jack G on September 04, 2007 at 12:19:58

So what does that do to your manufacturing expenses, that seemed so meaningful earlier today?

What about PCM? Not important?
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They still are.. - Jack G 13:40:06 09/04/07 (8)
As Paramount pointed out, its very important to the studios.
jack

Edits: 09/04/07
- RE: They still are.. - Jazz Inmate 16:34:23 09/04/07 (7)
  Turning away 67% of the HD movie market and favoring discs that can't hold as much as Blu-ray might indeed save a little bit in manufacturing costs.
  
  It's also right up there with the dumbest business moves in the saga of HD.
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  - You need to keep things in perspective - Jack G 05:08:08 09/05/07 (6)
    Paramount made roughly $1.5 Billion last year. The best selling HD discs (300) have only sold a couple hundred thousand copies. Only a few broke 100,000. Some sell in the tens of thousands, but many don't even sell 1,000 discs.
    Remember:
    DVD=99%
    BD=0.6%
    HD DVD=0.4%
    From the beginning to the end of July, there have only been 3.7 Million discs sold by both formats combined (2.2M BD, 1.5M HD DVD).
    We aren't talking big bucks here. Paramount may have given up the equivalent of pocket change now, for bigger gains down the road (cheaper replication costs, better infrastructure etc.). Time will tell if they were right.
    Jack
    
    Edits: 09/05/07
    - I was just replying to your series of posts about how it's more expensive to manufacture blu-rays - Jazz Inmate 09:44:00 09/05/07 (3)
      I wholeheartedly agree about perspective. So if you know that, why is this tiny manufacturing issue a blip on your radar?
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      - RE: I was just replying to your series of posts about how it's more expensive to manufacture blu-rays - Jack G 10:21:27 09/05/07 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I was just replying to your series of posts about how it's more expensive to manufacture blu-rays posted by Jazz Inmate on September 05, 2007 at 09:44:00
        
        > > > So if you know that, why is this tiny manufacturing issue a blip on your radar? < < <
        Good question. My answer is, that I'm not convinced they can solve the problems satisfactorily. The BDA has been working on this for quite a few years now, and *still* the issues remain. If they don't fix the problems soon, its going to hit the fan when the subsidies run out.
        Jack
        
        I guess the worry is they've run up against a manufacturing snag technology cannot solve. - oscar 10:50:15 09/05/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I was just replying to your series of posts about how it's more expensive to manufacture blu-rays posted by Jack G on September 05, 2007 at 10:21:27
        
        That wouldn't be very good news at all for Blu-ray (unless they go back to 25G disks).
        
        or that its not really viable (nt) - Jack G 13:26:42 09/05/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I guess the worry is they've run up against a manufacturing snag technology cannot solve. posted by oscar on September 05, 2007 at 10:50:15
        
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    - That 1% is potentially a very juicy plum ;-) - 4season 09:13:35 09/05/07 (1)
      I imagine that if the movie studios can bring down costs to produce a Blu-Ray or HD DVD movie sufficiently low, they could be looking at very very nice margins because these movies typically command much higher prices, whereas standard DVD sales are in a slump, and prices are discounted. It's like Apple and iPhone: There, the company's goal is to capture 1% of the USA mobile phone market, and that might not seem like a lot, until you realize it's the choicest part of the market where there's serious money to be made.
      - It has much bigger growth potential, that's for sure - Jazz Inmate 09:45:42 09/05/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: That 1% is potentially a very juicy plum ;-) posted by 4season on September 05, 2007 at 09:13:35
        
        And that's what shareholders like to see--growth. DVD is a cash cow, but it is a mature market.
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Manufacturing expenses/yields are important... So is PCM .... nt - oscar 12:56:48 09/04/07 (2)
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- RE: Manufacturing expenses/yields are important... So is PCM .... nt - GoingCoastal 20:23:01 09/05/07 (1)
  PCM only matters to us audio nuts. Neither SACD nor DVD-A succeeded but the MP3 is making a good inroad on the CD. The consumers that are going to decide if one/both of these formats succeeds has a $300 HTiB that is set-up wrong and not calibrated.
  
  King Kong is 181 minutes and is on one HD DVD disc. Batman Begins is only 3 minutes shorter than POtC and it fit on one disc. I thought the BD mantra was extras and interactivity don't matter only the movie?
  - Just 'cuz J6p doesn't care doesn't mean I shouldn't lobby for it. - oscar 09:00:49 09/06/07 (0)
    P*ssing in the wind but at least I can try.

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